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Re: WTA (Whitegoods Trade Association), The Future!
Blimey Mal, are you suggesting we carry a rulebook of do’s & don’t’s around with us?
Hold up lady!…..Can’t touch that fridge of yours, according to Rule 321, section 12….it says here……. 😈
Re: WTA (Whitegoods Trade Association), The Future!
I think that’s an excellent idea Mal.
Martin, where could you find all that information easily on one or two pages if you were wishing to start a career in this business? It took me ages to find all that information and it came in parts from different sources 😉
Re: WTA (Whitegoods Trade Association), The Future!
clivejameson wrote:I think that’s an excellent idea Mal.
Martin, where could you find all that information easily on one or two pages if you were wishing to start a career in this business? It took me ages to find all that information and it came in parts from different sources 😉
This is a good start Clive The HSE, The IEE
Would it be a good idea to try and correlate what the manufacturers are advising their engineers?Re: WTA (Whitegoods Trade Association), The Future!
Martin wrote:Blimey Mal, are you suggesting we carry a rulebook of do’s & don’t’s around with us?
Hold up lady!…..Can’t touch that fridge of yours, according to Rule 321, section 12….it says here……. 😈
Youll be allright Martin you can just fight em off with that big wooden spoon of yours :rotl:
Re: WTA (Whitegoods Trade Association), The Future!
Is it the remit of a TA to tell people what they should and should not be doing?
I thought that was the HSE’s job who produce more than enough rules and regulations as it now stands. So long as you follow those guidelines, as stated in the COP, then I can’t really see a lot of call for getting down and dirty in this area. Asides from which, irrespective of what you do here, you won’t please all the people all the time.
I can see the strength of making members aware of the HSE guidelines but you have to remember that that is what they are very often, guidelines, not a requirement. It therefore begs the question, logically to me, that since the HSE don’t police it then why should a TA have the expense of doing so?
The guide you posted Mal is just common sense on an HSE headed bit of paper IMO.
That said, if you followed every “directive” on H&S then you’d never get anything done for being bogged down in being safe. I guess that’s perhaps the point, if you have to do as much to be safe so as you can’t do anything then, ultimately, you’re made safe. 😕
Me, I’m afraid that I’m not for taking a windbreak into a home to make a safe area, I’d just keep asking customers to stay back while I work. If they refuse, who am I to argue, it’s their home and their property that I’m working on.
Most manufacturers follow the line that you should work within the legislative requirements and, if you don’t, on your head be it. They also do not police it in the main as it’s too hard to police. If you want it policed then you’re looking at having a pseudo CORGI type organisation on the go and that won’t happen for several reasons. One is the current legislation doesn’t support it, there would be a public groan about it so it wouldn’t be politically acceptable, there is no “accepted” standard by which to work and there would be a horrendous cost to implement it which would probably be borne by the repairers.
I can’t say I’d be keen.
K.
Re: WTA (Whitegoods Trade Association), The Future!
maltheviking wrote:Youll be allright Martin you can just fight em off with that big wooden spoon of yours :rotl:
Well my wooden spoon does come in handy sometimes Mal I have to say 😉
I use it to try to form rational and realistic proposals that could help, in this case at least, on the subject of what is wanted of a TA? 🙂
Now the fact is that you’re not far off the mark regarding your suggestion toward HSE type guidelines. By virtue of the fact that any government department would insist that in order for a TA to be registered or simply recognised as such by them, it and its members would have to sign up to all that red tape in the first place! 😯
Not just a bunch of guys drawing up their own code of conduct, but a full and commited adoption of each and every item of legislation that relates to or has any possibly link with this trade of ours. So joining up to the TA, swearing on the Bible and paying your subs will not be enough I don’t think? Well, not to the government and its agencies at least! 🙁
Like it or not some form of HSE, DTI or some-such other department, will want to lay down the law over some issue? And we might all have to carry a copy of the HSE Guidelines or at least swear under oath to abide by it? If that’s what it takes to form this TA then so be it I guess?
I was kind of hoping that we could run it without red tape, but your suggestion Mal may well be forced on us anyway……? :rolls:
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