Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle ??

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  • #42139
    ravenscroft
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    Any help please, Dishwasher is definately not heating and cycle times are Epic. i’ve looked at same problem on here which ended up being pcb but mine is clean and spotless, Help Greatly appreciated, Thanks Rob

    #272513
    helo_75
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    test the heater with a meter, if thats ok, its the pcb!

    #272514
    ravenscroft
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    Thank you, i did test heater earlier, it has continuity across the 2 terminals, is that correct ?

    #272515
    helo_75
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    yup

    id look a little closer at the relay contacts, follow the tracks back

    #272516
    ravenscroft
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    Ok, wish i had a magnifying glass, but i think i’ve found it, i will confirm when i resolder but i think i have 2 fractured solder joints on the smaller relay, i can just make out movement when i wiggle relay in the form or a hairline crack all the way around, finger crossed, i will let you know asap, many thanks Rob

    #272517
    ravenscroft
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    Re: Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle

    yes, i had three fractured solder joints on the smaller relay, very hard to find as there was no discolouration, resoldered, works perfectly again, actually better than it ever did, many thanks

    #272518
    BubbaFatAss
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    Re: Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle

    I’m also having similar problems with my dishwasher. I’ve reflowed all the points on the back of the PCB (no visible damage, used to dealing with troublesome electronics so would probably spot a faulty joint – have tested continuity between relay pins and end points and all seems good) around the relays but still no heat.

    Next step is checking the continuity of the heater I’m guessing. How is best to do this? Should I remove the heater (or at least the cable to it) and check at the heater, or can it be done from the connectors which attach to the PCB? I’ve not had the bottom of the dishwasher open (which I presume is where the heater is?) so that should be an adventure.

    If it is the heater, how much is the part likely to come to?

    Cheers

    Andrew

    #272519
    helo_75
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    you can test for continuity at the pcb end if you are sure you know which wires are for the heater

    just disconnect the connecter from the pcb and test, you should get a good reading as long as theres nothing else in circuit

    #272520
    BubbaFatAss
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    Re: Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle

    Right, I’ve had the whole thing apart. First of all, there’s some sign of water leaking out into the underside of the dishwasher – the dishwasher powder seems to have wreaked the polystyrene float that activates the anti-flood cutout. So I’ve cleaned out the bottom panel and dried it, run it for 30 minutes and the water still doesn’t heat, but the good news is that it isn’t leaking into the bottom tray any more.

    I’ve removed the connector from the heater and tested – it gives 24ohms. I’ve had *another* look at the PCB and everything checks out, so unless the relay itself has failed then I’m guessing something else must be up. Unless that 24 ohms doesn’t sound good (i’ve heard 20 to 30 is ok elsewhere).

    Cheers

    Andrew

    #272521
    Penguin45
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    Re: Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle

    PCB will have failed. They do that. Regularly.

    Penguin45.

    #272522
    BubbaFatAss
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    Re: Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle

    Damn, how much is that likely to set me back then? I’m guessing a couple of pounds less than an entirely new dishwasher? 🙁

    #272523
    BubbaFatAss
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    Re: Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle

    Right, I’ve replaced the relay but it’s still not heating 🙁 Is there anything else I can test, perhaps a temperature sensor or something? I’d really rather not spend a hundred odd pounds on a new controller if it actually turns out to be a £20 sensor.

    Cheers

    Andrew

    #272524
    Penguin45
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    Re: Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle

    Sensor is a thermistor. This is a resistance device, working on the ntc (negative thermal co-efficient) principle. The hotter it gets, the lower the resistance. Typically the readings are in kOhms, falling as the temperature rises. Pull yours, clip on the test meter, warm it up and see what happens.

    Penguin45.

    #272525
    BubbaFatAss
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    Re: Zanussi Dce 5655 Dishwasher Not heating. Very long Cycle

    Right, tested the thermistor and was working fine, so in an act of desperation I replaced the other black Omron relay on the PCB. Which seems to have got the dishwasher heating again! Thanks for everyone’s help!

    Cheers

    Andrew

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