Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

[Phidom]

Went to this machine this morning. Customer says the machine gets so far into a programme then resets itself to the beginning. The LED display shows the time remaining so you can tell it is back to 1hr 20 or whatever. She has not had any errors displayed. There have also been strange noises at the start of the spin. The only thing I found was some bits of loose insulation plastic from the motor windings, some inside the motor and some elsewhere. I will probably ring Re’Lectronics and ask their advice but does anyone on here have any thoughts on this?

[mbdas]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

I’ve had a simliar fault on a AEG that wash until time got to about 48 mins left and then went back to the begining that turned out to be klaxon in the motor activating but that showed fault code e53 hope that helps

mark 🙂

[Phidom]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

Sorry, what’s a klaxon in the motor? 😕

[Dave_Conway]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

Klixon (the manufacturer of the overload cut-out/protector) 🙂

Open circuit TOC basically I think…

Nice new avatar by the way, there’s more animals on UKW than at Longleat 😆

Dave.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

If there was a klaxon in the motor that might explain the “strange noises at the start of the spin” 😆
Sorry,just couldn’t resist it.
Mike.

[Phidom]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

I did wonder about trying a different motor. I’ve heaps of the 1000 spin ones but I don’t think I’ve got a 1200 one and it’s an expensive item to buy just to try. Thanks for the replies anyway.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

Masterpart have a special offer on a Sole Zan. mtr at the mo. I know it fits a 1250 model I was working on the other day. £50 +vat.
Have you got a Masterpart a/c? If not I expect someone could get it for you.
On the other hand, would a 1000 spin not fit on just to test?
Mike.

[Phidom]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

Motor 1242123048 is £86.79 from Connect or £103.99 from Masterpart 😯 .I don’t know if it applies to the newer machines but I seem to recall the 1200 spin machines had a centre tapping of the field coil so there was an extra wire.

[Penguin45]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

If you’ve got a CESET 1000 spin motor, the coil tap for half field is there anyway – just run the wire in.

Chris.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

The special offer is on 1249203041 which seems to be 1200 but is described as “old” under “status”.
Seems to me that you could use pretty much any old Sole motor to test the theory that it is the motor causing the fault. Or is it one of those machines that will show a fault code if one terminal is disconnected?
Seems to me that we should all charge more to work on these b****y electronics.
Mike.

[Penguin45]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

leavemetogetonwithit wrote:
Seems to me that we should all charge more to work on these b****y electronics.

Not sure I follow the logic of that Mike. In many ways, fault finding is simpler on these beasties. Do all the components meter out? Are they attached to the computer? Yes? All that’s left is the computer…… Easy peasy.

Chris.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

Now come on Chris, you know the reality is not so simple.
For one thing it’s difficult to get your meter across the terminals of an IDC plug. For another it is often time consuming to get to the point in the cycle where the fault is occurring. Customers are not always of much help.
Your suggested methodology must have led you to have quite a nice little stock of boards which were not needed after all?
I have one (1).
Mike.

[mbdas]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

On the AEG the machine would go back in time on the Quick was and the Cottons cycle but seemed better on the Synthetic Programmes due to the motor not getting so hot .I never did it but could you link out the TOC 🙂
just to try .The AEG turned out that it needed a Motor and a PCB as there was an update on that version I think to reduce the number of revolutions on wash ❓

Mark 🙂

[Phidom]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

This is probably a red herring but the customer thinks she used to get a long spin on synthetics but now if you skip to the spin it is only the short spin. We looked in the moaners annual and it described the synthetics as having a short spin. It looks like I will have to go back and stand watching the machine until it starts to misbehave. 🙁

[Phidom]

Re: Zanussi FJS1225 Time Travelling

Went back today. It ran fine until 5 minutes before the end, when it made a screeching sound like car wheelspin for about a second. It then shut down for about a minute then resumed agitating for the conditioner rinse. Apparently it has been doing this screeching twice before resetting to the programme start. I had already looked at the tacho and motor plug but this time I bent all the contacts slightly to make sure of a secure grip where the motor wires (all purple 🙁 ) go onto the module. I would have thought a bad connection on the tacho wiring would show itself when the machine vibrates more during the spin but it seemed fine after that tiny glitch. I found a small leak, which appears to be the tub joint but I don’t think water has been dripping on anything electrical as it is dripping off a rib on the side onto the plastic base. It looked as though the water might have been coming from a screw hole so I filled that with silicone.

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