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  • #70107
    jrterror
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    Hello everyone!
    Ok then, I own a Zanussi ZWF 1432S washing machine. We have had it around 7 years perhaps. Very recently it has developed a scraping noise at a certain location during a revolution. It rotates freely through most of a revolution and then becomes slightly difficult to turn for around a 16th of a turn. If I rotate the drum by hand quickly it is easy to turn, if I rotate it slowly it is more difficult to turn. If I spin it very quickly (this time without a continuous pressure being applied throughout a revolution) then it will revolve between 1.5 to 2 times before it stops due to friction. Not sure if this is about normal. It appears to turn ok-ish during a washing cycle, but during a spin cycle it seems reluctant sometimes to go into full spin. We have used low spin speeds as of late, hopefully delaying much further damage, so we have not seen what it does during a full 1400 spin, but during the these lower spin cycles it sometimes seems to speed up and then slows down within a couple of seconds and then cycles this trend until that part of the wash has completed. I was wondering if it was a bearing fault. I can’t see any thing stuck between the drum and its outer casing, and I have cleaned out the pump, it wasn’t really dirty or full of bra wires or such things. Unfortunately, I have discovered that this washer has a sealed drum, so unless mistaken I cant get access to the bearings if all evidence did point to them being faulty. There does not seem to be any visual movement, or play between the inner drum and the outer. However, if grab hold of the inner drum and the outer with my fingers and then pinch them together, it makes a single clunk noise. If I try it again, nothing, no noise. But if I rotate the drum a little and pinch them together again, then it makes the clunk again, just like before, just one time. To make it clunk again I have to rotate the drum a little.
    So what do you think? Perhaps I should add that we have never put a limescale preventer in it and set it going.
    Seems strange to me that it scrapes only a little during a revolution
    Anyway, all help will be greatly appreciated.

    Many thanks for taking the time to read this

    #377019
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    Most likely one of two possibilities:

      Something stuck in the drum
      Bearings gone

    No cleaner or limescale prevention will help I wouldn’t think.

    K.

    #377020
    jrterror
    Participant

    Re: Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    Your a good man. Many Thanks for replying to my two messages. So, does that mean that there is not chance of getting to anything stuck in the drumor getting to the bearing, cos its a sealed drum?

    #377021
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    We’d need the PNC number to tell you if it was a sealed drum or not for sure but, I’d not expect it to be at that age.

    K.

    #377022
    jrterror
    Participant

    Re: Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    Sticky label on back reads 914521109 Zanussi Electrolux ZWF1432S. Not sure if that is it.

    #377023
    jrterror
    Participant

    Re: Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    Just to confirm that is the PNC Number. found out now

    #377024
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    According to TDS, that machine can have either welded or screwed drum, THIS article actually uses pictures of a Zanussi sealed drum, does yours look like this?

    It is not uncommon to get a single solid metal object, nail, screw, coin etc between the drums which can give exactly the problem you have. Sadly if its not a screwed drum then you almost certainly are. :rolls:

    #377025
    jrterror
    Participant

    Re: Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    Yes as suspected, a sealed drum. I actually saw that pic earlier, which is why I decided to post my questions on this site. You have both been very helpful, thank you. So, just to confim, there is no way to remove any possible items between the two drums? Not that I can see owt, had a very good look through the holes on the inner drum.
    Once again ta

    #377026
    Martin
    Participant

    Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    jrterror wrote: So, just to confim, there is no way to remove any possible items between the two drums?

    Yes you can!…..It involves removing the rubber sump hose first in order to access the screws that hold the drum paddles in place.

    #377027
    jrterror
    Participant

    Re: Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    Do doing this leave much room to find things possibly stuck and scraping, or just it just give access to one point under the drum? And i guess you still can’t replace the bearings by this or any other method?

    #377028
    Martin
    Participant

    Zanussi. scraping noise and sticking drum

    jrterror wrote:Do doing this leave much room to find things possibly stuck and scraping, or just it just give access to one point under the drum?

    The latter.

    jrterror wrote: And i guess you still can’t replace the bearings by this or any other method?

    Correct!…..though it is always regarded these days that by the time the bearings fail on today’s modern machines then any thoughts of replacing the bearings is a pointless exercise overall.

    Your machine by definition has long overstayed its usefulness anyway, I venture to suggest.

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