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September 30, 2006 at 5:45 pm #21289
hesel
ParticipantIn my search for the cause of noicse please could anyone advise how I can remove the collar from around the door and will removing this allow me to check if something is lost between the outer tub and the inner drum?
I thought I had better check this before trying to take the machine apart to check the bearings because I don’t yet know how to do that either.
Also, do you know where I can access detailed exploded drawings of this machine?
Thanks in advance
September 30, 2006 at 5:57 pm #190302iadom
ModeratorRe: Zanussi washer/dryer WDS 1183W
Removing the door seal (collar) from the cabinet will not allow you to see into the drum, removing the door seal from the outer drum will not allow this either, but if you do remove the seal, be prepared for trouble. You will find it very, very difficult to replace.
Almost all technical information is covered by manufacturers copyright so you will not be able to get detailed, exploded drawings.
In view of your earlier posts, I strongly advise you to get some pro help.
Jim.
September 30, 2006 at 6:23 pm #190303hesel
ParticipantThank you for that, I did ask at the local repairer and he said it is not economical to repair, it would cost-a-lot.
I really would like to have a go at repairing it, you see my husband already thinks I’m crazy to consider it and I really want to prove him wrong AGAIN! Since the alternative is to get a new machine, I don’t have an awful lot to lose (besides pride), but I really like this machine and don’t want to replace it just yet.
If anyone can give me any tips for taking this apart I would be so very grateful. Thanks anyway for reading this.
Regards, Sue
October 2, 2006 at 2:37 pm #190304hesel
ParticipantFollowing your advice Jim, I decided to leave the door seal right where it was.
I have removed the rear half of the cabinet and disconnected the drainage pipes and found two socks and part of a pair of what looks like chewed up ladies knicks but no hardware in the drainage system as yet. I suppose the next thing is to remove the drum.
Now, should I remove the front half of the cabinet while the machine is standing upright? I started to do this and realised everything would collapse. So is the best thing to lay it on its’ front and take the drum right out because I can’t see how to get at all the nuts that hold both halves of the outer drum together with the front of the cabinet still in place, there seems to be about 15 nuts but cant count them right now as this machine is not in my house.
Yes, I know I am a stubborn moo, still want to have a go and would appreciate any advice from anyone who would be king enough to consider helping me. Thanks again.
October 2, 2006 at 2:45 pm #190305iadom
ModeratorRe: Zanussi washer/dryer WDS 1183W
Have a read of this first before you go further, the whole drum has to be removed. As stated several times in that thread, a very difficult job, not to be undertaken lightly.
NB. you do not need to ‘take the machine apart’ to check the bearings, if you spin the drum by hand and it doesn’t make any obvious noise then the bearings will be fine.
An experienced engineer would be able to check 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of drum bearings just by opening the door and lifting, then spinning the inner drum.
October 2, 2006 at 3:31 pm #190306hesel
ParticipantThanks again Jim. I saw that post earlier but I see it has been updated. Very interesting. Talk to you again soon.
October 2, 2006 at 3:58 pm #190307hesel
ParticipantThere is play on the inner drum, it moves about half and inch. Looks like I will have to get my hands dirty. Is it best to lay it on its’ front and remove the drum that way? Thanks
October 2, 2006 at 4:33 pm #190308iadom
ModeratorRe: Zanussi washer/dryer WDS 1183W
We cannot go into blow by blow accounts of repair techniques for legal and safety reasons, we will try and guide you, particularly guide you away from making silly or dangerous mistakes, but you do need a certain level of competance and the correct tools. A bearing change on these machines is not much fun, even for experienced engineers.
Jim.
PS. Are you in the Exeter area? if so one of the Admin staff here at UKWG’s, Dave Conway ( you will see his posts all over the spares forum) is local to you. He should be able to put you in touch with one or two highly qualified, reputable people who will do the job properly for you.
October 2, 2006 at 8:22 pm #190309hesel
ParticipantRe: Zanussi washer/dryer WDS 1183W
Are you in the Exeter area?
No, ‘fraid I am in Hertfordshire, Jim. I do realise this is not going to be easy but if worse comes to worse, I will just have to take it down to the council tip, so nothing ventured nothing gained eh?. I will have a go tomorrow as it’s not in my house. Watch this space …….
October 3, 2006 at 12:33 pm #190310hesel
ParticipantI wonder if anyone could advise how to separate the front of the machine, ie door and rubber bellow, from the drum assembly? Gone so far as disconnecting everything except the shock absorbers and tub suspension springs but don’t know how to disconnect the tub from the front cabinet.
I know this is not the best way of doing it but I am removing the Drum because I cannot see how to get at the bolts holding the front outer drum to the back outer drum while it is still in the front half of the cabinet. This is the only way I personally can do it.
By taking the drum out I will be able to take the bearings out, inspect the shaft and order the parts I need to get this blighter back to work (we can but hope!). Thanks
October 3, 2006 at 2:21 pm #190311farmboy
ParticipantRe: Zanussi washer/dryer WDS 1183W
Hesel, the whole tub has to come out to get to the bolts – don’t try to remove the front of the cabinet it has to be done from the back.
I know its been said before but this is a very tricky job to do and worse still on a washer/dryer as part of the dryer system has to come off too – fair play to you for having a go but please consider getting an engineer to do this job for you. (see Repairs@) You could create more problems than you solve.
October 3, 2006 at 2:33 pm #190312hesel
Participantyes, I am removing the whole tub but don’t know how to separate the tub from where the door is. This is the only area currently preventing removal of the tub. Thanks
October 3, 2006 at 2:42 pm #190313Martin
Participanthesel wrote:yes, I am removing the whole tub but don’t know how to separate the tub from where the door is.
The door seal has to be detached from the front panel and the dryer ducting first in order to do that. And to reiterate everything my learned colleagues have posted before me, it is not a job for the amateur DIY’er. And from this point on you are on your own I’m afraid. So please do not ask us any further questions on the subject as our only answer would be to consult a local expert to undertake the work for you (see link below)
And the best of British!!! 😉
October 3, 2006 at 3:39 pm #190314hesel
ParticipantRe: Zanussi washer/dryer WDS 1183W
Martin wrote:
The door seal has to be detached from the front panel
Thank you for that advice, I had managed to deduce that which was why I was asking how it could be done.
OK Martin, YOU don’t have to reply, surely this forum is available to people who choose to post or choose to reply or just choose to read. That IS a choice. Presumably you CHOSE to reply to me on this occasion. It seems weird (to me) that this is the first time you have chosen to reply to this posting and yet you seem grumpy about it.
There MAY be someone out there who has already attempted this operation as a DIYer and who can and WILL advise. I know how some experts try to keep things close to their chests and that is their prerogative, but not all are like that. I am only too pleased to give help to anyone, wherever I am able and whenever I can.
So… is there anyone out there OTHER than an expert in this field who would be kind enough to give me the information I need? If not then, yes … I am on my own … but even so, I will manage one way or another. I am at the point of no-return, sink or swim as they say so I have nothing to lose now.
I would prefer though, rather than advising the same “leave it to an expert”, that you did not reply. Please, no offense is intended, I am grateful for all the help and advice I have received so far, I just now want to get the job finished without upsetting anyone who does not chose to help.
regards
October 3, 2006 at 3:45 pm #190315Martin
ParticipantRe: Zanussi washer/dryer WDS 1183W
hesel wrote:Please, no offense is intended
And none taken hesel, I wish you the best of luck. 🙂
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