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  • #24590
    ess
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    Our hard working WDT1065 is spining nosily. Sounds like the bearings (by reading previous posts). Before I take the machine apart to have a look/repair what should I look out for and what guidance can you give about changing the bearings (how do I do it?) 😕

    How difficult is this job? Is it for a competent(?) DIYer?

    #202571
    Martin
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    ess wrote:How difficult is this job?

    That’s a pretty old beast and not too bad a job really with a few spanners, hammer and WD40. Taking the back off will reveal all, cuts and bruises guaranteed due to access difficulties. Good luck! 🙂

    #202572
    ess
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    Martin

    Thank you for your response and help. You make it sound relatively easy (perhaps more so than other posts would suggest). Is this true?

    It is an old beast and has worked well – to be honest we just want it to keep going a little longer until we spend out on a new kitchen/new washing machine.

    #202573
    Martin
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    ess wrote:You make it sound relatively easy (perhaps more so than other posts would suggest). Is this true?

    But then I’ve been fixing washing machines for 40 years and got the hang of it in that time. You need a few spanners, screwdrivers, lump hammer, chisel, WD40, high speed grease, old rags and a First Aid Kit….that should be enough to get on with!

    All the best! 😉

    #202574
    ess
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    Thank you for the tips 😀

    Do I take the drum out or do the job in situ?

    What replacement parts do I need? Bearings and bearing seals and ANYTHING ELSE?

    High speed grease – What do you recommend?

    #202575
    Penguin45
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    ess wrote:Do I take the drum out or do the job in situ?

    Remove three legged cross piece.

    ess wrote:What replacement parts do I need? Bearings and bearing seals and ANYTHING ELSE?

    spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk will be able to supply the bearings, seal and gasket for you as a kit.

    ess wrote:High speed grease – What do you recommend?

    Most of us use an LM type grease available from any motor factors.

    Regards,
    Penguin45.

    #202576
    colint
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    Most of us use an LM type grease available from any motor factors.

    Hi
    I’ve recently replaced bearings on a Zanussi (FL1084, which sounds a little different to this one) but I’m interested to know more details about where the grease should go — I didn’t put any in!

    Thanks

    Colin

    #202577
    clivejameson
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    colint wrote:I’m interested to know more details about where the grease should go — I didn’t put any in

    The grease is used to lubricate the flanges of the bearing seal…if you didn’t use any then you may get a premature failure of the seal leading to bearing failure again 😯

    #202578
    colint
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    clivejameson wrote:The grease is used to lubricate the flanges of the bearing seal…if you didn’t use any then you may get a premature failure of the seal leading to bearing failure again 😯

    Is the flange the part of the seal that runs against the brass collar on the shaft? Is the grease necessary to keep the water out, or to lubricate the seal so that the seal itself doesn’t wear out?
    Thanks!

    #202579
    Martin
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    colint wrote:or to lubricate the seal so that the seal itself doesn’t wear out?

    You got it… :tup:

    #202580
    linkgreen
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    Hi everybody

    It’s my first time here so please bear with me.

    It’s a question for colint as i’ve got a noisey fl1084 (especially noisey on spin) and i reckon the bearings need replacing.

    Can you outline how to do it and if any special tools are required.
    Also where did you buy your kit, i’ve seen them for £16 + p&p which sounds good to me.

    I’m an electronics engineer by trade and have done loads of diy / car maintenance, so I feel fairly competent

    Many thanks
    PG

    #202581
    colint
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    linkgreen wrote:where did you buy your kit

    From this site! (Excellent service.) Sounds like a similar price, ask for a quote.

    linkgreen wrote:Can you outline how to do it and if any special tools are required.

    Sure. I’m no expert, but I guess my skill/experience level is similar to yours.
    Basic procedure (from memory):
    Only need to take the top and back off, then disconnect any hoses/pipes/wires from the drum, and remove the the drive belt and pulley. Remove the motor and heating element. Remove cement counterweight from drum. From front of machine, remove complete door seal (need to release the toothed connector on thin white plastic ring which holds outside of seal by sliding the toothed bit sideways. Inner side of seal is just hooked over a lip on the drum). After you’re sure there’s nothing connected to the drum anymore, remove the pins that hold the drum supports from below (plastic ‘pegs’ that have a small key to prevent them coming out. I found the easiest way was to tap the peg with a small hammer, or similar, until the key stops it, then press the key in with a flat screwdriver while tapping the peg out. I also found it easier to get to the top of one support, and the bottom of the other — you only need to release one side of each of the supports at this stage.) At this point I closed the door and lay the machine on its front, on something soft (and absorbant!) which makes it easier to release the 2 springs holding the drum up. The drum should be completely free now, and you can lift it up out of the machine. Remove all of the bolts holding the 2 halves together, and separate the halves. Remove the wire clip that holds the heating element in place. Screw the bolt that held the pulley back into its hole. Supporting the drum half somehow so that it doesn’t get damaged, whack the pulley bolt with a hammer until you’ve driven the shaft out. Obviously be careful that you damage the bolt head and thread as little as possible. You now need to remove the remains of the old bearings, without damaging the sleeve, which was the trickiest bit for me. Depending on the state of the shaft, you might need to replace that as well as the bearings.

    Putting it back together is pretty straightforward. The bearing kit I got had 2 rubber seals, but I’m sure I only needed one of them. (Don’t forget the grease, like I did!). Obviously don’t damage the bearings when you tap them in. I put the inner one and its seal on first, then assembled the inner drum and outer half, then put the outer bearing on the shaft and tapped it into place. Easiest way to get door seal in place is to put seal onto drum before it goes into machine, then stretch the stretchy spring into its groove (I needed a second pair of hands for that).

    Think that’s all, I’ll add anything else I remember.

    Tools (apart from obvious):
    – 7, 8, 10, 13 and 17mm sockets or spanners
    – cordless screwdriver that can take 8mm socket useful to remove all the bolts holding drum halves together.
    – something to help get the old bearings out (penetrating oil, old blunt chisel used with care, in my case, maybe there’s a better way.)
    – long nosed pliers useful to get supporting springs back into place.

    Good luck!

    #202582
    linkgreen
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    Hi colint

    Thanks for the prompt reply.

    Armed with this information I am now going to get the parts and give it a go.

    Excellent site, excellent service – many thanks

    PG

    #202583
    linkgreen
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    Hi again colint

    I split the machine as you described with no problems.

    One of the bearings appeared to have totally collapsed, which has caused nasty scoring to the shaft, which will also have to be replaced

    I’m not sure whether to scrap the zanussi or buy a new machine.
    My wife has just informed me that she wants a new machine!!

    Whatever happens thanks for all the help.

    Many thanks
    PG

    #202584
    colint
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    linkgreen wrote:I’m not sure whether to scrap the zanussi or buy a new machine.
    My wife has just informed me that she wants a new machine!!

    Yes, we had the same dilemma. I think they are worth repairing, we’ve had very good service from ours. A friend replaced an old machine about a year ago, with a fancier, more electronic machine, and has had endless trouble with it playing up in different ways during the cycle — maybe it was just bad luck.

    linkgreen wrote:Whatever happens thanks for all the help.

    Sure!

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