[abhaslaj]

Re: VT1014D23 – runs for 4 seconds at a thim

Thanks Bryan.

I found this:
http://www.buyspares.co.uk/module-progr … =VT1014D23

But sadly out of stock. As we now don’t have a working machine, I can’t take the risk of it taking weeks to be restocked.

Any suggestions as to where else may have it?

[abhaslaj]

Re: VT1014D23 – runs for 4 seconds at a time

I took the board out. Sadly there was no obvious problem, like a blown electrolytic, so I put it back together. Since reassembling, the machine no longer displays anything – it appears completely dead.

I will contact QER as you suggest. I am a pessimistic, but it would be a terrible shame to scrap the whole machine for the sake of what is likely to be a single component.

Thanks for your help

[abhaslaj]

Re: VT1014D23 – runs for 4 seconds at a thim

Thanks Dave, is there just a single board in these machines? How can I confirm that is the fault?

[abhaslaj]

Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

This is my first post to this thread since November 2009 (page 36). I had experienced the usual chattering type of problems, replaced all the capacitors, and then both boards.

Well, both the new boards are doing fine – I have not had any more ‘electronic’ type failures.

However, the cold water dispenser is dripping. I’m guessing the electronicaly controlled valve is just ‘furred up’ with limescale or similar and and a good clean, or new washer if appropriate, will get it going again.

But where is it?

[abhaslaj]

Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

A few pages back, I posted my attempts to repair my S20BRWW20 by the usual means of changing capacitors etc – I had had some success – but on my last attempt I must have done something to damage the rear board. Brodders was kind enough to examine both boards and declared the microprocessor unserviceable – however the front board looked OK to him.

So I ordered a new rear board from the spares section of this site. As part of that order process, I provided both the part number from the pink label on the chip “461950209764” and the service number “8586 152 15011 11 0349 030468”

To save typing effort I’ll paste the brief exchange with Dave

> Hi Dave,
>
> Collected board from Courier depot this afternoon.
>
> After fitting it and switching on everything worked -ice, water, temp
> controls – everything!. But 5 minutes later I heard a beeping – it
> was the front panel displaying “CF”
>
> I turned it off waited a few minutes and turned it back on – again 5
> mins of everything working, then “CF” again, and all front panel
> controls are ‘locked’. Did notice the compressor turn on and run even
> while the front panel is displaying “CF”.
>
> I have since turned it off and removed and replaced the front and rear
> boards to ensure all connections are correct – but every time, 5
> minutes of working followed by “CF”.
>
> What should I do?

Hi,

I would ask again in the forums to be honest, I do not have access to the fault codes on these.

Regards

Dave.

So does anyone have any idea?

The new rear board did not have a label on the chip itself – but had two identical white barcode labels, one on the outside of the plastic box and one on the relays – these read:

L26273/25VN Date 23/09
CUB000002G
461950209767A

In addition, there was a green label on the board with:

04 CUB000002G SWR4

Perhaps that is SoftWare Release 4?

Brodders has tentativly suggested there could be a firmware incompatibility between the two boards – but that were the case, I am intrigued as to why everything works perfectly for the first 5 mins after the appliance is turned on.

[abhaslaj]

Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi Ozzy, thanks for your reply. I will check it out – I have absolutly no other leads – however I am rather pessimistic as I had already changed the front electrolytic several months back just as a precaution – the replacement was slightly larger and had to lay on its side (however, same capacity and voltage rating) – and I haven’t touched the front board since.

All that I ‘touched’ this weekend was the caps 26, 27 & 28 although obviously I could have disturbed something else on the rear board.

Thank you again.

[abhaslaj]

Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi, a couple of pages back, I posted my experiences changing the usual capacitors and the subsequent results. I should have left it there :rolls:

Unfortunatly I didn’t. On Saturday I thought I would try to fix the last vestige of relay chatter by swapping out the final capacitors – C26, 27 & 28. For the first ten miniutes after the change it seem to work – water flowed without splutter and the fans all started up as they should. I started to put my tools away but became aware there was a slow ticking from the front relay. While my back had been turned, so to speak, it had all gone wrong. 🙁 The compressor nor the fans run, niether ice nor water dispenses. The Led temp displys still show the target tempratures but the individual digits flash ever so slightly in time with the ticking from the relay. First the -ve symbol then the 2 then the 0 then the 5 and back to the start again, so the flashing passes across the display like a ‘wave’. the ticking is like a clock – every every half second or so.

Has anyone ever seen this before?

I tried putting the original capacitors back, plus a few other minor experiments but to no avail. I had a chat with Broders – but it is asking a lot of someone so many miles away to diagnose a problem.

My gut feeling is that is actually something simple – but what….

I am desperately hoping someone will recognise the symptoms I have described above.

[abhaslaj]

Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi,

I would just like to publicly thank broddersbaldrick for the support he has freely given in helping me to resolve the issues that I have had. Apart from being very knowledgeable, I have found him to be patient, courteous and prompt – a real gent :salute:

[abhaslaj]

Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

When I opened the rear PCB ‘tupperware’ box, the reason for the relays starting to chatter again was quite clear – -the ‘piggy back’ capacitor had obviously failed with strange stuff bubbling out of each end of it!

I replaced this with the 1uf 275vAC Capacitor decribed in the previous post. As with my other ‘fixes’ there was a disconcerting delay of about ten/fifteen miniutes before the compressor started up; does anyone know what that might be? The new capacitor has stopped the chattering – I hope I get more than two weeks of life out of this one.

Any thoughts as to my question above concering which front board capacitor may be causing the front panel light to flash when dispensing ice or water? It is the only remaining fault (at the moment :wink:) on the appliance.

[abhaslaj]

Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi,

This is my first post to this forum.

I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread – I’m sure like me it has resulted in much money not being wasted on new boards.

I had the usual problems develop on my S20B RWW20, first the ice dispensor stopped, then sputtering water. When the relays started chattering, I found this thread and ordered (from eBay – £3.24 inc postage) the four .22uf for the rear board and the 6.8v 1000uf electrolytic for the front board. The very day after they arrived, I came downstairs to find the compressor had stopped and the warning light was on – after hastly arranging some time off of work I changed the capacitors listed above. The compressor started working, the ice dispensor started working and the water stopped sputtering! However, to my small surprise, the red relay continued to chatter.

I thought I would try Ozzy1’s suggestion of piggy backing another capacitor across C1 on the rear board. The only capacitor to hand was a .47uf 250v DC. However this stopped the chattering. The only thing not working at this stage was the front panel lights flashed when dispensing water. Any ideas as to which capacitor this might be?

Two weeks passed. Unfortunately, the red relay has started chattering again. I’m pinning my hopes on my 250vDC capacitor having failed and so have just bought a 1uf 275vAC capacitor from Maplin. It was £3.02 on its own, but it is a very impressive looking beast: http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=98166

It is a “Metallised Paper RFI Class X2” Capacitor, whatever that is 😕

My plan is to replace both the original C1 and its piggyback friend with this one good capacitor. I will let you know if that works.

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