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Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
iadom wrote:
alfiebengal wrote:
After all I con’t understand how radio works but I accept that it does.Likewise, but then I have actually seen and heard a radio working. 😉
We have not had an iota of visual evidence that this machine is a functioning entity. The Reason website still only has the same mock up video.
I don’t think pigs can fly but if I ever see one then I would be instantly converted. 😀
Can we assume that you will be placing an order for one of these machines then. ❓
Much as I’d like to place an order my Dyson is still going strong and showing no signs of giving up the ghost……….Maybe a little sabotage is called for but it seems a shame to do it.
Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
Martin wrote:…and in addition to what my colleague’s iadom & kwatt have said in reply to you alfiebengal. I was hoping that your sudden and and enlightening input into this debate directing us to Andrew’s lecture would add weight to the debate? Sadly that seems not to be the case.
I would further add that this site is ever seeking civil and intelligent debate on all matters whitegoods. This format allows little in the way of one to one rapport between postees and in consequence leads easily to a greater misunderstanding between participants should ones point be misinterpreted? Therefore could I ask that perhaps you may give us the benefit of your particular point in this debate? Sadly for me at least I fail to recognise your point of view and would love to know where you are coming from here?
Over to you….. 🙂
Sorry for the delay but this is my office PC and I try to avoid it over the weekend.
The reason I landed on this site was that after viewing the You Tube video, not Reason’s but the Do Lectures video, I Googled him and amongst other things came up with this forum. The Do Lectures are given by a group of entrepreneurs in many diverse spheres to inspire other people to think outside of the box and think the impossible.
Perhaps you can understand why, when confronted by so much negative thought, I made my comments. I would also ask you guys to listen to him a bit more thoroughly and you’ll see that some of your comments don’t bear any relationship to what he said.
You might also like to look a bit further into it and you will find that he has already started delivering machines for testing in the field, a move, I’m sure you’ll agree, is eminently sensible.
He is also manufacturing the machines in the UK providing much needed jobs in a recession and a boast not many other white goods manufacturers can make!!
Also, I’d like to point out that I have absolutely no axe to grind and have absolutely no connection with the white goods industry. I just despair when someone who has obviously invested a great part of his life into a project gets so roundly condemned by a bunch of people who haven’t even bothered to look into the facts correctly and dismiss a project because, seemingly, then can’t see how it could work. After all I con’t understand how radio works but I accept that it does.
Keep smiling guys.
Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
Martin wrote:
alfiebengal wrote:
See my comments aboveWhat?:con:
Errr they’re there between your sentences……….says it all really 😕
Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
Martin wrote:
alfiebengal wrote:
Just found this site and this discussion and can’t believe how negative some of you are, if it were up to you we’d still be using a stream and rocks to do our washing.Err? Stream & rocks? No no, most of us that have made comments are in fact long established engineers within the washing machine industry and have based them upon the vast accumulative knowledge we have gained in that time on the subject matter in question.
That sentence really says it all, you can be too long in one place.
alfiebengal wrote:Perhaps you might like to look at this video and possibly learn something from it http://www.dolectures.com/
Yes I’ve listened to Andrew’s lecture and there are very many points I could comment on. But I will focus on those more relevant statements Andrew made if I may? : –
1) His head engineer had no previous experience in washing machine technology?
So what’s your point. Are you trying to say that an engineer is only allowed to specialise in one product, do me a favour!!
2) Approaching the problem from a consumer point of view?
It’s called market research!!
3) No heater in ballast tank that uses only existing ambient temperature of room?
The detergent operates at 15DegC and most houses are well above that.
4) No machine to demonstrate because they’ve been extra bits needed since?
No because they rightly need to protect their patents.
5) Extra G forces mean a new approach to motor design?
What’s your point?
6) Big manufacturers biting at their ankles?
Undoubtedly they are if they’re doing their jobs properly.
There’s no doubt it’s got the trade talking and with his talk of approaching the problem of washing machine technology from a new angle the trade cannot wait to see this miracle he and his mates Steve & Matt have come up with….BRING IT ON ANDREW is the message.
alfiebengal wrote:Oh and I have a Dyson washing machine that I’ve had since its launch and apart from a couple of minor problems it’s doing a splendid job of work. Also the Dyson after sales service is just superb.
Well James Dyson’s brilliant attempt at a new type of washing machine technology failed and for one simple reason (no pun intended) simply because it is OVER ENGINEERED.
But it worked and is brilliant. He is an example of someone with no previous experience of a market coming into it and shaking its foundations. Look what he did to the vacuum cleaner market while the industry adopted your attitude and watch their sales go down the pan.
Reviewing what we know of the Reason Washing Machine so far is simply that we cannot figure how the hell it works? From our engineering viewpoint and what’s been disclosed so far by Andrew it simply ain’t gonna work….period.
Or perhaps it’s because you lot didn’t think of it first
As for the funding the project has got so far? It all smacks of a bit of a scam to be honest? I’d love to eat my words there but for now I’ll just sit here on this fence.
Why is it a scam? Anyone investing in it is going into it with their eyes open. That’s how business works, although not often enough in this country.
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See my comments above
Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
Just found this site and this discussion and can’t believe how negative some of you are, if it were up to you we’d still be using a stream and rocks to do our washing.
Perhaps you might like to look at this video and possibly learn something from it http://www.dolectures.com/
Oh and I have a Dyson washing machine that I’ve had since its launch and apart from a couple of minor problems it’s doing a splendid job of work. Also the Dyson after sales service is just superb.
