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  • in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142545
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    CF error code

    I went through the process of rplacing the capacitors using brodders kit (execelent) m/c worked for a couple of years and then failed with the front display showing “CF”.

    Turned out that I had a dry joint on one leg of C1 (back board) re-soldered and its working.

    Just thought I’d add this for general help, agree its not quite on topic.

    in reply to: Whirlpool AWM8163GB Vibration, drum bounce #294246
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    Re: Whirlpool AWM8163GB Vibration, drum bounce

    OK. So I took both the suspension struts / shock absorbers / dashpots (call them what you want) off and looked at them and came to the conclusion that they were simple friction dampers with a bit of lube to stop them wearing out immediately. (for some reason I expected to find something ‘better’). As a simple friction damper will wear I became much more suspicious that this was likely to be a problem.

    However, a simple friction damper can be ‘adjusted’ as it wears, in this case I took a large nail punch and dimpled the metal outer that the plastic inner slides in so that the friction was significantly more, still guesswork but worth a try.

    These I re-fitted and gave the m/c a dry spin cycle, passed OK. I then took a 5oz ‘weight’ (pure guesswork) and taped it to the inside of the drum to represent an out of balance load and gave it a spin cycle to see.

    Result: much better, drum ‘bounce’ eliminated, vibration still present, but machine no longer likely to walk away from the kitchen.

    Observations, this was being done with the back off and dry and the movement distance the dampers operate over is small and only significant when the drum is accelerating / decelerating, when once the drum is past its resonance the bounce become a simple vibration which seems to be largely transmitted through the damper directly to the frame of the machine, which is probably to be expected as friction dampers have a fairly low frequency respnse in general. What I noticed which supprised me was that the rubber bushes that locate the dashpot to the drum and to the machine frame took significant motion and probably wear the same as rubber bushes on the moggy minor used to.

    Question(s):

    Anyone know what kind of weight imbalance a machine is supposed to tolerate?

    Are the rubber bushes on the suspension struts available as a separate item.?


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    in reply to: Whirlpool AWM8163GB Vibration, drum bounce #294243
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    Re: Whirlpool AWM8163GB Vibration, drum bounce

    That’s exactly what I thought. If these were on my car it wouldn’t pass the MOT! Goodpoint about the drain / weight excess, when it was
    checked out on no load and with a load the water was pumped away quite quickly, a ‘gush’ not a dribble, so I suspect that’s OK.

    So back to the original question:

    What part(s) are they? and is it worthwhile changing anything else while its in bits?

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    in reply to: Whirlpool AWM8163GB Vibration, drum bounce #294241
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    Re: Whirlpool AWM8163GB Vibration, drum bounce

    Yeah, looked at the spider in place but can appreciate that it would have to come off to give it a real look-see. However its failure mode doesn’t really fit with the symptoms, this has gotten worse over a period of a few months fairly gradually and consistently wash-by-wash, if the spider had gone then I would have expected a more sudden noticable change.

    How should a good suspension leg ‘feel’?

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    in reply to: Whirlpool AWM8163GB Vibration, drum bounce #294239
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    Re: Whirlpool AWM8163GB Vibration, drum bounce

    I hadn’t tried the concrete weights, could only see one lump (sheet?) of concrete over the front of the drum. What I could feel wasn’t loose.

    Tried rotating the drum and the motor and compared the feel with a Bosch next door which is OK and they ‘felt’ the same no notchy feel to it at all, in fact it rotated as sweet as a nut. Can’t feel any play between inner and outer drums. On no load it runs fine no vibration or bounce, its only when you put something in it it has to ballance out, that’s when it all starts turning pants and bouncing about like a rubber ball.

    Still suggest bearings?

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