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Hi, are you suggesting that a repair is not worth persuing ? There is no current evidence of dampness but obviously something has occured in the past but it is not obvious from where!
Thanks for the reply Iadom, which leads me down a somewhat different route as to what could be our problem. I mentioned that for whatever reason the machine had been generally behaving itself over the last few months until recently, when all of it’s original symptoms seemed to reappear. At present, regardless of what wash cycle is selected, the machine fills for a while, drum makes one rotation, sits quietly for about a minute, makes one more rotation and then drains and stops! I mentioned that the problem seems to have reappeared simultaneously to me bypassing our failing water softener, which I have now successfully replaced and is back in full operation, however, and maybe I am becoming paranoid, the fill on the washing machine appears to be quieter than I remember it and I am wondering if anything has partially blocked the inlet valves. My next plan of action is to disconnect the machine fill hose and ensure there is a good water flow with no sediment but I am also tempted to replace the solenoid valves at the same time just to eliminate that as a possible cause to all our issues. What is your thoughts on that and are you able to advice the UK Whitegoods code for these valves which appear to be a twin solenoid valve? I really appreciate your assistance and views on what seems to be an everlasting problem on what was always a very reliable washer.
Well, I am back again, bit like a bad penny.
The last 4 or 5 months the machine has generally behaved itself but we knew not to be too complacent as it probably might not last when last weekend all of the original washing machine symptoms that dogged us last year started to return again, i.e. not performing a final spin to now filling and either immediately draining again or filling and just sitting there doing nothing. By coincidence this coincided with a water softener fault that we had at which point last weekend I removed the original softener in preparation to fitting a new replacement which I did today. This entailed a certain amount of turning off and on of the main stopcock in the house.
Prior to me delving once more into the bowels of the washing machine tomorrow, is it possible that the washing machine is reacting to either higher or lower water pressure in the house where I have either opened the stopcock too much or too little after the water softener refit? I suggest this as looking back through history on this forum (clutching at straws as where I should start looking) somebody else reported similar washing machine behaviour which they identified as too high water pressure and when they reduced it the problem appeared to cure itself!!!
Is this a possible cause to look at on this occasion?I have now done a continuity and wiggle check on the wires between the Inverter PCB and the Motor and also the Motor Communication wires between connector 1 on the control panel and the Inverter PCB and everything seems to be in order. After this we attempted another wash on Auto setting (after clearing the existing program using START STOP and the Power Button) and it performed the same as yesterday but proceeded to perform a final spin but only for maybe a minute before shutting down. After about 10 minutes it attempted to final spin yet again for maybe 3-4 minutes before shutting down again with 7 minutes remaining on the display so it didn’t fully complete the cycle to show END on the display. After about an hour we decided it wasn’t likely to do anything else so opened the door to remove the laundry. The bottom line is that it can wash and spin but seems reluctant to perform a full cycle and we have to clear the memory each time before commencing a new cycle.
I haven’t checked the wires between the Inverter and the Motor yet but plan to check them out in the morning. Not sure how many wires connect them and how easy it will be to run a test on them. Strangely, my partner tried putting a wash on this afternoon on AUTO setting (hardly ever used), it filled, washed, drained with its associated spin, rinsed 3 times again with their associated spins but then stopped short of the final spin as on previous occasions.
Electrofix, in answer to your questions I can confirm that the machine does not operate correctly either loaded or empty and I have run a continuity check on the wires between the plug on the Inverter and the plug on the control board and all seems fine.
We still have the old control board installed as the same problems seem to exist whichever board is fitted.
The setting was on Spin & Drain when we switched the machine back on, the drum rotated and started a slow spin, fluctuating in speed as usual and just as it started to ramp up to full speed (even though I had my fingers crossed) it shut down. After about 10 minutes it attempted something again but only rotated half a turn before cutting out and it repeated this once more.
We put a wash load in on Easy Care/40 deg/1200 spin hoping that we might at least get a wash done even if it had to hang out dripping again but the machine filled, stopped for a few minutes then drained again and stopped.One extra thing to add to the list: I set the was cycle up today with no drain (no spin) hoping that at least the drum would retain the wash water to limp through a wash cycle but once again it filled, drained and stopped as before.
I am pretty sure the drum behaves the same whether empty or loaded but I will double check this statement, and check the wiring later today, however yesterday the drum did carry out a wash and the prelude to the final spin where it spins slowly in both directions for a few occasions but when it just started to crank up to a full spin it just went silent (pump stopped) and drum came to a halt. Then nothing. Control lighting still on. When turned on this morning with the original control panel re-fitted (as suggested by Iadom) the machine defaulted to 0:15 on the display as if it wanted to run the final spin from yesterday, but performed half a turn of the drum and stopped…. again.
A little extra info. Yesterday it did a wash and a rinse (I think!) but wouldn’t spin. So that wash load is now dripping on the line to slowly dry so I thought as it might be a nice day it might be worth doing the same again to make the best of a bad job and at least get some items washed. Machine filled, sat silent for a few minutes as if it was heating then drained all that nice heated and detergent infused water down the drain and is now sitting silent (mocking me no doubt!). Short of threatening to thrash it with birch twigs I just can’t seem to get to what is causing the problem.
OK. I fitted the old control panel back into the washing machine this morning and powered it up. It went directly to 0:14 on the display as if it wanted to continue the spin at the point it failed yesterday with the new panel. After a couple of feeble attempts of half a turn each of the drum and stopping it finally decided not to try again, so I seem to be getting exactly the same symptoms with either panel fitted that I have been getting from the start. I really don’t know where to go next with this !
I haven’t tried it with the new element and the old panel but out of desperation I guess anything is worth a try. A job for tomorrow, and I will let you know how it goes.
What are your experiences with Inverters Iadom? Could all of our problems be caused by a faulty Inverter? I know the machine can spin as it has done it (surprisingly) on recent occasions, then other times the drum will have a half-hearted half rotation and nothing more, although it will sometimes repeat this half rotation a few times before appearing to give up !
Latest update: Following your last advice re. tripping RCD, I received and fitted a new heating element today and no more problems with tripping RCD however (and disappointingly) we are still experiencing problems running a full wash cycle. Bizarrely, when we powered the machine up for the first time after fitting the heater element it looked all very promising, set up a quick wash (timer showed 0:45), machine filled, washed, drained and at 0:18 appeared to attempt to spin but after a couple of aborted attempts at 0:17 it just stopped and didn’t want to proceed. Tried re-setting to either rinse or spin and drain but didn’t want to play. Tried re-starting a quick wash again but machine filled and then instantly drained and stopped. All of these symptoms are the same as at the beginning of our catalogue of troubles before fitting the new control panel. Any suggestions what might still be causing our problem ?
Hi Iadom. Insulation Tester arrived today. Tested heater element @ 500v DC. Display on tester is in G ohms and I am getting 1.42
Is the element faulty ? I hope so as I have removed it now!!!
Bryan
