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Re: What to consider when buying?
Forgot to ask about a vac for work, building debris etc. I currently have an Earlex combi-vac though I only use it as a wet vac and do not wish to use it for dry suction. I have had an offer on a choice of Karcher models for my non-domestic needs. I generally hold Karcher in high regards for their pressure washers though I do know if this translates to their other goods. Anyone have advice for a dry work vac that can take punishment, ta
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Again thanks K.
I think you have resolved my warranty queries adequately, not much different from my trades exemptions.
Regarding the hot water questions, I believe you are saying that you believe 40-50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} energy saving on what is quoted on the programme specifications is achievable. for example on a standard 60 degree cotton wash, consumption could be reduced from 1.1kw to 0.6 kw all things being equal. I will not hold you to your opinion!
I am I correct that in choosing to buy from your store that the £1099.00 price includes delivery and installation, no further charges.
Again thanks in advance. I believe with the eco model I would be able to reduce the consumption more than expected.Re: How efficient is my old freezer or how do I tell?
When you quote consumption figures in watts/kw are quoting per hour or daily consumption for each appliance/lights.
My advice would be to swap all traditional incandescent bulbs for correctly sized CFL replacements. This year as seen CFLs going dirt cheap from supermarkets to DiY stores due to mass stock changing. If your mother has Halogen down lights in the kitchen I would consider L.E.D replacements, 50/30 watt down to 5.5 watt though the cost of the both bulbs and lamp holders (GU10 etc) has to be considered. L.E.D from a decent manufacturer last for an age. My kitchen alone has gone from an average daily consumption of 720 watts to 132 watts by changing to L.E.Ds.
Regarding tariffs in N.I, visit the Consumer council for Northern Ireland’s electricity price comparison table; 14-16p per kw is found from different companies. Hope that is of help?
You can get L.E.D replacements for the spot light but I not know much about their performance.Re: Advice and opinions appreciated
Thanks K.
The boiler has a comfort mode where I can keep the hot water pre heated from 30-60 degrees. I tried to look for info regarding initial fill consumption but could not find anything, 40 degrees should enter the machine within 5-7 litres of water; I’d imagine that would not prove wasteful? In the future after relocation, the hot water would come from an unvented cylinder though distances etc would remain the same.
I was looking at the Eco’s programme chart for energy consumption, I take it that the kw quoted for each cycle is based on cold fill only. If using preheated hot water what would be a rough percentage reduction in energy consumption providing all criteria is met; I have seen 70{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} quoted?
Regarding the warranty, I naturally understand due my own profession as to what you are saying. I just wanted to know what was meant in English regarding the exemption example I mentioned.
For example does it mean that if the drum paddles were being replaced and in the process plastic/ glass was damaged that said broken items would not fall under the warranty?
Also, if the machine was relocated in time whilst in warranty, would I have to contact ISE to arrange re-commissioning at charge?
As mentioned, I would like to see the machines before purchasing. I know of one company, I think they post here, who have a workshop not far my brothers in the Stansted area. I will contact them to see if a viewing is possible. I live in a heavily populated area of the south coast, though there are only two ISE suppliers remotely near me. Would this effect installation cost?I am serious on the ISE machines but I do need my queries answered/resolved as these would be long term buys given the costs. I am thankful for all answers given so far. Please bear in mind that if I am taken with the ISE you would get long term trade from me due to my own customer base.
I cannot fathom who V-Zug markets to at that price! From my experience the wealthy mainly spend huge sums on emotive items, form over function. That will not be tempting Miele’s client base
who from experience are far from rich, just sensible.Re: Advice and opinions appreciated
I have some queries regarding the W288eco and the warranty exemptions. Firstly are the main differences between the W228eco and the W256w restricted to the eco’s hot fill and its spin speed, 1800rpm versus 1600rpm. I ask as the Eco is £200 more than the standard model.
Would the Eco be suitable regarding location and savings for my property? The location is currently next to (and down) from my combination boiler location; the hot water draw off would be within 300mm of the machine so only the hose would dictate the draw-off lag.
For the warranty/guarantee I have two queries. I was looking into the 10 year policy exclusions; can someone please shed more light on the damage resulting from the removal of glass and plastic regarding filters, drum paddles etc ?
Also in 5 years or so (I hope) an extension will take place which will see the relocation of the kitchen and therefore the washing machine; how will this affect the 10 year guarantee?
If I decide on either I.S.E model, will there be in any change in install price as quoted on the main site due to my location?
Have looked at V-zugs, for the money their 2-year warranty does not cut mustard. Miele keeps on coming back into the frame, a customer I finished with in Sept has a washing machine and Tumble dryer from them since 1989. They both are in use daily (due to cancer she uses the tumble dryer over clothes line as its less of a struggle for her) with only one fault with the washing machine door in 24 years, to be honest they look as new as the day they went in!Re: What to consider when buying?
Ta Don
I realise that they don’t do uprights, though I would forgo an upright in the case of the Numatic clan. They are made in Blighty still I think and seem to be held in high regard by those that use them for a living. Three choices to mull over me thinks!
Re: How efficient is my old freezer or how do I tell?
Have I got it right that your Mother is using 19kw a day and paying £100.00p/m; that she does not use electric for heating/hot water? Firstly 19kw a day is extremely high consumption, especially if she uses gas too. Secondly, at 19kw a day, your Mum should be paying around £80.00p/m based on pre rate rise prices, so what ever happens, her tariff/supplier needs to be reviewed. I suspect you may have a fault with that 0.5kwh exterior spot light, is it on all the time? I give my custards an ear bashing when they’re spending £75p/m on electric for a family of four with gas for heating, hot water and cooking!
If you mum, who lives be herself, only uses electric for power and lighting (heating etc gas/oil), she should be well under £40 p/m. What’s changed to make you go from 12 to 19 kw per day, I would defo check that exterior light. Can’t see how the freezer could be responsible for sapping that much.Re: What to consider when buying?
Thanks for your opinions, have heard of Kirby. It looks like the Sebo X4 (Pet most likely) has my money; fhe Felix range looks lacking in terms of construction for me. Used another Dyson today, DC25 I think, mine feels like it’s hewn from granite in comparison.
Anyone have an opinion on the Numatic clan, at least so I can soundly rule them out.Re: Advice and opinions appreciated
Hello again.
I would like to know if the ‘Find a dealer search’ on the I.S.E website is currently up to date. The nearest stockist/dealer is Beech End Electronics which unfortunately a fair trip away via a notoriously traffic ravaged route. I would like to come and view the appliance and am surprised that in and around the heavily populated area I live there is nothing closer; surely a gap to fill! There is another company that is extremely close, though there is no mention of a shop (think he is a repairman) and I called the number in the summer for some info but no answer.
Anyone with an appliance to see in the BN area, TaRe: Advice and opinions appreciated
kwatt wrote:You’re correct.
For most people a gas dryer or to a slightly lesser degree heat pump dryer is probably not such a great bet but people do get sidetracked by the whole “save a fortune” energy argument.
The only reason I say heat pump to a lesser degree is the massively lower installation outlay. Couple it with a long lifespan and it makes sense. Short lifespan and it doesn’t.
What the duty cycle ratings are for the White Knight I’ve no clue as they’re not published although I wouldn’t expect it to be brilliant given the price points.
K.
That is my concern. Ta
Anymore thoughts regarding the ISE install (I’D still pay regardless) and the Liebherr query.
Re: Advice and opinions appreciated
DrDill wrote:I really do hope that the quality of build and reliability are not affected by this move, i really do. Look what electrolux did to AEG after they were gifted the company by Neff, when Neff was taken into BSH.
Exactly, it is all too common and is in fact a longterm mistake made by the new parent company.
kwatt wrote:There’s a lot of people making sure it doesn’t.
However, just to be sure, I will be out there this year to see for my own eyes and, quite probably, before we accept any product after the move.
The laugh is, it’s so serious that they’re even moving the powder coating stuff and using that. The level of detail is actually quite reassuring really.
K.
Some people may find such actions ridiculous, though as a tradesman who stakes his reputation with certain manufacturers, such actions affirm your faith in them.
Regarding the White Knight Eco models, my only concern is durability/quality which is the unknown quantity for me. What worries me is that the top model (Eco 86a) is in a cheap price bracket for something that should last. I have seen them range from £290-330, around £120 more than the cheapest 7kg models. Everything else concerning them is a selling point for a specific part of the market. From my point of view only 30{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of gas users would see a real benefit in having one of these. Firstly the customer would have to be a high user, in excess of 90 cycles a year and they would need a location that can not only be accessed by a gas supply, but one that also satisfies ventilation and service requirements. Installation cost can be considerably reduced by tying the work in with other work that is already planned. I have compared running costs with all A,B and C rated models; even Siemens A-50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} 7kg model is slightly more expensive per 1400rpm cupboard dry cycle. I believe also that currently the Eco 86a has the fastest cupboard dry cycle? I have customers that would have these installed, in fact it was a retired couple who have different sets of grandchildren staying every wkd or so that first question me about these models. Again, my basic problem is durability. From your collective experiences could the bulk of these models perform 1000-1200 cycles with 1-2 breakdowns? I do not trust ‘customer reviews’ that I have read on-line.
I think I shall be purchasing an ISE before the autumn. Is it a local independent I buy from? I have read that there is a Delivery/installation fee, which I am happy to pay, but can I still install it still or because of the warranty does the agent absolutely have to install it?
Regarding Liebherr, what do you consider the average life span is for these, based on experience. Also, can you independents repair these easily without obstruction or is the arrangement similar to Miele’s. Thankyou
Re: Advice and opinions appreciated
kwatt wrote:
Same materials. Same plant used. Same pressings. Same components barring any updates in time. Same dedication to quality. Same testing. Same all round really, just the location is changed and the staff obviously bar key people. All the development is still in Sweden, unchanged.we were also pretty persistent in the retention of it all. 😉
K.
Thanks for the reply, I shall keep my fingers crossed. Is the current line up set to remain or are new additions expected?
Re: Advice and opinions appreciated
Thanks for your replys.
I must point out that due to my trade and the customer base I have built up, I cannot fault Miele on build quality/reliability. As for the Indesit group, their washing machines and Tumble dryers will not cope with my demand/future demand. For the washing machine I am not really interested in anything from Bosch downwards. I am well aquainted with a vast array of their products to the point that I will say that there is a Bosch, then there’s a Bosch and then there is a Bosch. I know Siemens are part of the group but the Germans are strange. A lot of their conglomerates/groups allow the individual companies to run their own affairs, though naturally there is pooling of resources; The Vaillant Group is an example. I have always found that when Siemens and Bosch compete in the same theatre, the Siemens product is superior.
I mention the White knight gas dryer for both my personal use and business possibilities. If it won’t last 12-15 years based on average use allowing for 1-2 breakdowns, then I will not be interested.
The Fridge freezer I really do need advice as I am not sure of what is good and what is not; the American side by side style is not my main concern honestly; build quality and storage capacity is for the future. The manufacturer I have heard mentioned quite a bit is Liebherr, are they that good?
Anyone have info on my ISE concern?
Many thanks.
