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Thanks Dave. Will check there when I get the parts and take the machine apart.

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My door gasket, at least originally, did not have the wire at the front of the seal. Instead there are two plastic pieces that screw into the machine that hold the front of the gasket in place. I have ordered the replacement seal 168908, as the one that is now 168260 has that ridged area, that, frankly, I don’t know how to deal with.
In the meantime, while waiting for these parcels, I’ve done an ‘experiment’ to try to see exactly where this is leaking. It only leaks when the machine is spinning, not when washing, draining, etc. I put a piece of cardboard under the machine and when it started to spin, shut off the machine and took a look. I’ll post a photo. If you look at the cardboard, just above the top of my phone on the left side of the photo, you’ll see a line in the cardboard. The front of the machine starts about 1 inch above that line. The cardboard goes exactly in between the feet of the machine. Note that when I pull the cardboard out, the water runs to the back of the cardboard, so what’s important is where the leaks start, I suspect. There appears to be two places that the machine is leaking. The first is in the center, which I assume is the door gasket. But there is a second one on the left side, that appears to start further in then where the plastic tub would be. I have ordered the tub seal as well. Do you think that this is what that second leak is??

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Thank you for the info. My parts catalog was found online, and apparently was the original prior to part numbers changing. I’m glad you had additional info, and once again thank you for your help. You deserve a Happy Christmas, and hope that you have one. Thanks again for all.

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But just wondering…..I’ve been searching for the part number 168260 which is the number in my parts catalog. How or where would you (or me) find any info that would indicate that the part number was changed to 168908??? Assuming that this might occur again, using the original part numbers but not knowing that another part nuber superseded it???

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Thanks. Dave. And thanks for the link. And thanks for your expert info. Everywhere I looked indicated that the original gasket for 168260 was now changed to the ridged gasket, and was still using the same part number. I clicked on your link, and the gasket in the photo looks exactly like my original one. No ridges. And it’s the last one, being sold by the same supplier that sold me the other one, and who I had been in touch with. I am hopeful that my issue is just the hole at the top of the door gasket, although I’ll probably change the seal as well, while I’m in there, particularly as there was some thought that I might not have placed the heating element back into the bracket as I should have, years ago. Maybe. Anyway, you are one of the reasons why I’ve been successful in keeping this machine alive. I’m eternally grateful…grateful enough not to bug you as to how you were able to edit your post…..:)

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One more question. Or maybe two……My door gasket part (168260) has apparently been changed, even though they are using the same part number. My gasket is completely round and flush with no ridges in it. But the news ones have ridges. I’ve been looking on the internet to see where this part of the gasket goes, but cannot find any explanation for it or why the gasket design was changed. Do you know? The new one looks like this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186855255816
Also, in just feeling around (as the front of my gasket is actually held on with two plastic pieces that go around the door, rather than a wired thing, I felt a hole in the top (at about 11:00 in my gasket. Do you think that this could be the cause of my leak??
Thank you again for taking the time to respond to my newbie questions.

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Thanks, Dave. It will probably be at least a week or more before I can get to this. I’ve ordered the seal and gasket from UK suppliers, but they won’t ship to Ireland. I have to get these sent to a friend’s address in the North, and then either take a trip up there to get them or have him post them to me. I’ve done plastic welding, but hopefully I won’t need to do this. And it was actually videos on the WM series that showed me what to do with my Hotpoint. Of course now the tubs are welded so that you can’t get to bearings anymore. I’m trying to stay away from a new machine for as long as I can. As always, thanks for your response and advice. Will report back when I get the parts and gumption to tackle this. For the moment, I just make sure my mop is handy….:)

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I’m posting on a tablet. Of course, I could just re-read what I’ve typed to make sure it’s what I want to say. Anyway, the drum front of mine is plastic. Hopefully it’s not punctured, although I’ve always wondered whether I put the heating element back into place properly. However, I think if that was what was causing my issue, the water would be coming out further back from under the machine. Hopefully the drum front hasn’t punctured, but I do recall some of my past queries here on this machine, where one of the suspension rods had broken and there was the possibility that the main plastic drum had punctured. There was a mark on the drum, and If I recall correctly, I used some kind of putty that was recommended here, although it turned out that it wasn’t leaking. You probably don’t remember me….I’ve probably just about rebuilt this machine, with valves, hoses, bearings, spider, suspension, etc, all because I’m stubborn and refuse to buy a new machine where I’m compelled to heat the water, rather than using the hot water I have from my cylinder. I see from videos that the model just newer than mine no longer uses those clips (which I find somewhat difficult to install), but I don’t see a way to connect the drum front without them. I never replaced the seal, however, and the last time I had to machine apart, I reinstalled the seal so that the top of it (which was less pressed in) was at the bottom. I’m hoping that this is my issue. Of course, as you are saying, the water is never really splashing around at the top of the drum front, so maybe having all the clips isn’t really necessary.

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Is there no way to edit these posts? I keep making typos and then only seeing them after I impatiently hit ‘enter’.

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I am currently missing only one along the top, which disappeared the last time I had the machine apart. I was opting to get them in a set. I haven’t taken the machine apart yet, as I am waiting for the seal. I’m actually still able to do laundry. The machine does not leak during fill or wash, but leaks during the spin cycle. I put a large piece of cardboard under the machine, and see that the leak is from the front. I ordered a new seal as the one in the machine is the original one, so I don’t yet know if any of the clips are part of my problem. I also ordered a new door gasket, which hopefully I will not need, as the new ‘style’ looks somewhat different than the original, particularly around the area where the door is attached, .although Hotpoint uses the same part number. I figure I could get creative with that area if I needed to. I do have the all the smaller bottom clips….or at least did, the last time I had the machine apart.. I suppose in my ignorance I thought these might be sold as a set.

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I have found one site that apparently sells the clips: https://www.partmaster.co.uk/drum-clip-front-platetub-standard-type-laundry-9514-9524-9534-9510-9520-9530-9570-95490-9511-95470-95450-95360-95130/product.pl?pid=344384
That is what the clip looks like, but it appears they are selling ONE clip for 17 pounds, which truly is usury.

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I really should proofread. Larger plastic tub. Not lager…..:(

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OK, thank you. I will do this, as I did see that the soap dispenser had water in it. However, even so, if the shut off valves at the house plumbing are working properly, even if the valve at the machine is leaking, there still shouldn’t be any water coming into the machine, right??

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Thank you. I figured something similar. The water in the tub is clean, so assumed that it was either coming in from the hot or cold hoses (or both). I’ve read elsewhere that on older machines, if the inlet screen is dirty, or if the pressure is very low, it might not allow the valve in the machine to close off (so that if a trickle continues from the house plumbing, the valve in the machine might remain open. I just went to do a wash, and when turning on the valves under the sink, their movement felt ‘different’. I’m assuming that this is where the issue is, so either ‘coincidence’ that the new hoses were put on when one of those valves was beginning to get compromised, or perhaps the installation of the new hoses caused those 60 year old valves to get damaged. Thank you for your response….looks like I’ll be getting that plumber back again. This seems to be a never ending adventure….:(

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LOL….actually, never mind. I have to stop obsessing with this machine. It seems to be running fine….without clothes in it, it doesn’t vibrate at all. With clothes in it, it’s ok too. Anyway, I’ll end this thread as ‘SOLVED’….lol. And thank you all once again for putting up with me.

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