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Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
Removed the complete drainage system but can not find any blockages although I did find a white solid ball which looks like a ballcock in a WC system. I guess this is a non return valve? Can you remove this and will it affect the machine draining? I think the problem is Ariel, just creates too much foam and it gets stuck in the sump and doesn’t drain so the rinses become soapy. I won’t buy P&G stuff anymore so I am lumbered with Persil which my Bosch copes better with.
Detergents never used to foam so much did they? What we need is a proper low sudsing detergent made.Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
Is the quality that bad then? Well based on your advice ill steer clear of them. But getting back to what i was saying do you think the recommended amounts of detergent is too much and could half them?
Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
Whilst on the subject of detergents how does the Marks and Spencer and Waitrose own brand compare? Are they good quality? I would of thought they would be seeing as they sell good quality items.
Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
Keepitsimple that was the recommended dose for my area NOT yours.
Do detergent makers recommend too much?
Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
@ Keepitsimple My water is 23.525 Degrees Clark.
My machine does extra rinse but only one.
Even in hard water though modern detergents create too much foam even with correct dosage.
Ill give you a guideline:
on the box of Ariel powder i have it suggests 165ml for normal soiling and if i used that amount clothes would come out like cardboard! Not to mention foam and my Bosch hates foamy detergents and i have complained to Ariel about the poor quality anti foaming agents but they are not interested as usual. It really is infuriating when no one listens to you. I will use Persil instead.
Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
Would putting something like Steredent tablets or soda crystals help dislodge the gunge?
Other than lack of bleach, why do liquids leave residue behind? I would of thought they rinse away easily seeing as they are soluble already.
Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
@ Martin I have already taken the pump out myself and can see no blockages. Regarding the sump hose is that easy to sort out myself?
Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
@ Keepitsimple I do use the liquids properly but I do not put as much as the Manufacturers say, they tell you to use more so you buy more soap quicker. I do not trust them one bit.
Regarding usage I use 25ml for normal soil of Ariel excel gel for colours and that is enough otherwise I have loads of foam. I live in Suffolk so the water here is hard but I actually think the water company has added something to the water supply as the water is nowhere near as hard as it used to be.
The machine was rinsing properly last week as I could see all the water droplets on the door glass now there are none. I have just used the liquid about 5 times since the last 60C maintenance wash. Could the liquid of built up after just 5 washes at 40C?
I was wondering if the way the drain hose is attached on modern Bosch’s if that was the problem? They come up through the back of the unit as opposed to the base.
Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
Am having real problems with rinsing in my Bosch WAE2465GB Classic Vario Perfect and wondered if it was down to using liquids? Doesn’t matter how many rinses I give it the damn thing just will not pump the suds away. The water drains but the suds just don’t go away. I have looked for blockages but non in the sump or pump. However if I put soda crystals or caustic soda down the grey drain hose I get all black mouldy gunge come out. I have already done this procedure once and rinsing was back to normal, surely the liquids haven’t gunged the pipes again?
Re: New Persil ‘Small and Mighty’
Can I ask why you would never use liquids? Really would value your advice as always used liquids for colour washes and powder for whites.
Re: Own Brand Detergents
True but you can add Ecover laundry bleach or ace which will give anti bacterial protection won’t it?
On the subject of detergents, be honest, do manufacturers recommend too much detergent?
Re: Own Brand Detergents
The thing that puts me off of powder detergent is the fillers i.e. sodium sulphate. You can easily test this by taking a teaspoon of powder detergent and drop it in a jar of water. You can see the residue settle to the bottom of the jar. That’s why I only like liquids as no filer and pure cleaning agents. I run a 60C weekly and add oxygen based bleach and never had a problem with build up.
I only currently use Ariel Colour liquid but only post this because I wondered if I would get the same results by using a cheaper product but looks like the own brands are best avoided then.
