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Machina
ParticipantRe: Bosch not taking in enough water
clivejameson wrote:
Machina wrote:
I didn’t spend £450 on a dishwasher to spend lots of time at the kitchen sink, just in case my dishwasher cannot handle dirty plates! I thought that was a dishwashers job???? I’d understand if I was pouring lots of grease into it, but a Sunday roast every week; come on it should handle that!That old chestnut!
All the makes you mentioned can and do handle dirty plates…extremely well if given the correct wash cycle and detergent doseage.
I agree it would be nice if a dishwasher could handle anything thrown at it but unfortunately i’ve yet to see one! 😆If I am using it normally, then why did it block? Is the pipe too small prehaps?
Machina
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kwatt wrote:
Since basic chemistry teaches that to suspend grease you need a suitable detergent to loosen it and suspend it in fluid and enough water, heat and agitation to accomplish this we often find that these sort of problems come down to the useage of the machine, not the machine itself. Whether the manufacturer/s explain that well enough or offer enough instruction to people is open to debate.If you read that through you should find the answer to your problem and why many an engineer, or technician if you like, will be quite blase and offhandish about it as we see it all the time.
K.
I always use the 70oC wash. I’m assuming the water is at this temperature when it is circulating around the appliance and that a decent detergent (i.e. Finish) would keep the grease suspended at that temp. I would also assume that this greasy mixture is pumped straight out of the machine, hence my lack of understanding of hot grease, cold pipe. I would understand it if the drain got blocked, but not the recirc pipe. Btw, can anyone tell me the ID of the pipe that blocks?
Dishwasher manufacturers must know of this problem, and there must be a way of allowing the user to clean these parts without calling an Engineer/Technician/Whatever; whether this means use of chemicals or a mechanical method.
My previous dishwasher was only 4 years old and it was A rated I believe. I was hoping to move forward with the Bosch, not backwards!
I am not interested in whether the service agent has seen this problem once or a thousand times, they should always treat the customer with respect. Maybe this is why service industries have such a bed reputation. The gentleman that fixed my dishwasher was very offhandish and I just thought that his nice boiler suit and little laptop had gone to his head. 🙄
Not all service people are like this, but you only remember the ones that give you bad service. The last Serviceforce rep who fixed my Zanussi washer/dryer was outstanding. He took me through what had happened and was very pleasent to talk too. 😀
Machina
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clivejameson wrote:
Unfortunately, animal fat is often liquid when it enters the machine (via crockery etc) but quickly solidifies when it meets the cold surfaces inside…best bet, and something I always advise, is to get the hot tap running and put the really greasy stuff under it for just a second or two before putting in the machine….whatever the make!To me this totally defeats the purpose of a dishwasher!!!! I’d rather wash the dishes as I’ve probably done 80{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the work if I follow all the suggestions here.
I didn’t spend £450 on a dishwasher to spend lots of time at the kitchen sink, just in case my dishwasher cannot handle dirty plates! I thought that was a dishwashers job???? I’d understand if I was pouring lots of grease into it, but a Sunday roast every week; come on it should handle that!
Machina
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I don’t think I misuse my dishwasher, and I believe that this is just used by ‘Engineers’ (or as I call them Technicians) to cover for bad design. I have used 3 makes of dishwasher in my life, a Zanussi, a Hotpoint and a Bosch. Only the Bosch suffers from this problem.
The Bosch had become blocked with grease, not food particles, and if it cannot handle a greasy pan used for roasting then it’s pretty poor in my opinion.
Machina
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I’ve just had this problem with my Bosch Dishwasher, but luckily for me it was under warranty. The engineer mentioned that it was clogged, which surprised me. Is this problem only common with Bosch Dishwashers? It seems like a really bad design to me. 😕
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