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Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
Ho-hum, I have a US washing machine as well (One of the benefits of massive basements), so I don’t actually need the Zanussi at all, I just want it (for water saving reasons, power usage etc). There are all kinds of sub-texts here, ranging from the rubbish job that american top-loaders do of actually cleaning clothes, to the amount of energy and water they waste doing it. If you remember the old hoover twin-tubs back in about 1970, compared to my 2 year old Whirlpool US top loader, they both do about the same quality of job. While I agree that my ole’ zanussi may not be a state-of-the-art machine, It still enjoys a huge technological advantage over any affordable US machine. If I want something comparable, I would need to spend $700-800 for a european (Bosch etc) front-loader, as opposed to $200-300 for a top-loader. So thats my rationale – The time it takes to fix it isn’t a problem, neither is any reasonable cost, as I could recover the costs easily in energy savings. And then I get to learn how washing machines work as well… I know from over there, I sound like a sad old obsessive, but it would be really, really worth it to me to get it going.
Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
As this thread winds sadly to a close, Just a roundup of my final testing of the machine for those who might have some wild suggestions: Done using cold rinse cycle, 1/2 load.
1. Machine fills then empties correctly. No pump clattering, just a perfect empty.
2. Machine fills again, then pump clatters for 5-10 secs then empties.
3. Machine fills again. Pump clatters, fails to empty machine, but if hose is lowered to ground level to gravity empty machine, pump will kick in correctly when machine is practically empty.Wait an hour or 2 to repeat process.
Manual check on temperature of pump suggests no overheating.
Have completely removed hoses connected to pump to check for blockages.
Did quick ‘blow’ test on pressure switch to ensure working.I wont be monitoring this thread after a couple more days, so anyone with any bright ideas can email me at marknewnhams.com.
Thanks to everyone who contributed.
Mark
Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
More testing. My opinion is that it’s the number of fill/empty cycles that is affecting the emptying, that is, within a number of fill/empties within a short period of time, the pump will go from starting to empty within seconds, to longer and longer until after 5 or 6 cycles it wont empty at all. After waiting a number of hours, the cycle above can be repeated.
Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
I’m not sure about that, heres some thoughts:
1. The new pump can empty the machine 3 times out of 5 on a plain rinse. (cold water vs warm?)
2. Once the pump is emptying, there is no clattering. does this mean there is no water in the pump area when it clatters? What else might prevent water getting to the pump? Should we reinvestigate the airlock stuff?
You might be thinking – whats the point in spending all this effort on a crappy old machine, just to let you know:1. The front loader takes about 1/3 of the water of my US top loader per cycle, and my water rates are rising 20{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} this year.
2. The front loader is a cold fill, and the top loader is a hot fill from a gas-heated boiler, and my gas rates are going up 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} next month. (Electric is only going up 10{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d})
3. Front loaders start at about $750 here…..4. I will not surrender!!!!!!!
Just to reiterate my continued thanks to everyone helping out on the thread.
Mark
Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
Welcome back, experts. So I got a brand new askoll delivered, stuck it in
Step 1. Filled machine for rinse, turned control to empty – perfect!
Step 2. Put in 1/2 load at 60C
a. First empty, took a few seconds to get going, but then emptied.
b. subsequent empties in cycle, clatter…clatter…clatter.
Arggggggggghhhh!!!!Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
PM? sorry, don’t know that.
Incidentally , I stuck the old pump back in this morning to ensure I wasn’t mad and first go it emptied the machine before clattering to a halt…Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
Thinking about it, a US sourced part won’t work, as washers here are 110v, not 240v, so is anyone up to do some business on this. My suggestion.
I’ll return the current Askoll pump to you (original bag included). You can check it out, If its NOT faulty, then obviously I’m an idiot. If it is faulty, you can send a replacement (I’ll accept a used part), maybe you can return the original to the manufacturer. I’ll pay all ground shipping costs. payment by credit card or by UK cheque. Obviously I wouldn’t pay VAT on the part.
Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
Doesn’t seem like askoll has a presence in the US unless they are OEM for manufacturers here. Do you know if they are fitted in other manufacturers machines?
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Yes, the old pump has worked since I’ve been here.
Are you all in agreement that the new pump is faulty?
Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
The new one is 30w
Ive posted a couple of movies, the first is checking the rebound on the pump
http://67.108.224.116/kmntemp/rebound.avi
The second is the pump under powerRe: Help on old Zanussi washer
I checked the sump hose, while it is a little saggy with old age (aren’t we all), A little judicious tightening does not change in any way the problem.
I’m going to dissasemble the unit again for a little bench testing. There isn’t the possibility that the motor is turning the wrong way? Which way should it turn?
Re: Help on old Zanussi washer
Penguin45 – could you clarify sump hose please
Iwill verify if the supply is 50 or 60 Hz
