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Re: Holes 3mm x 2mm found on clothes using Beko WM 5140 W
hotpointtom wrote:I’ve noticed the plastic paddles on some new machines have some sharp edges where items could become caught. It was much better when metal paddles were the norm and were an integral part of the drum mould.
I looked at the Miele models, and they seem to have really pin head sized holes, no way could fabric ever be pulled through these, but I would never pay over £1000 for them.
hotpointtom wrote:
Go much lower than 800rpm and your washing would be dripping wet anyway.I used to use much higher speeds on my older machines, but on this one 800 is best for synthetics and shirts etc, I can never understand why some people want their clothes dried like there was no tomorrow. 😆
nomadPaul wrote:There is a theory that the mixture of high speed spins and the the design of modern day machines causes a vaccum to occur between the inner and outer drums and this ‘pulls’ material through the small holes in the drum causing the small pinhead type holes .
The items i’ve seen with these kind of holes are always thin , delicate types of clothes….mainly summer wear. This is why its very important to follow the wash label instructions on clothing to ensure the correct wash cycle is selected. If in doubt , maybe drop the spin speed down by a couple of 100 rpm for the cycle selected .
The holes on clothing are much larger than pin head size they are roughly 3mm.
Unfortunately 800RPM is the lowest spin speed on my machine.
You’re right about the material usually being thin where the holes normally are, and I think it’s the holes in the paddles that cause this.
Re: Holes 3mm x 2mm found on clothes using Beko WM 5140 W
Martin wrote:
printo wrote:
Is it normal though for the drum when it starts to spin slowly as it drains off for it to kind of wobble like front to back, it sometimes does this before it gets into the full spin.The drum is mounted on springs and shock absorbers, of course it moves about, side to side, round and round, shakes and wobbles in all directions..perfectly normal!
Thanks Martin.
When putting in tee-shirts that are my favourites I now put them in the net wash bag just to be safe.
By the way, I wouldn’t say the zip on the net bag is very stiff or anything, but would you have thought it would have opened completely during a synthetic wash? like I said earlier I perhaps forgot to zip it shut.
Re: Holes 3mm x 2mm found on clothes using Beko WM 5140 W
I don’t really overload the machine if I am to be honest.
Is it normal though for the drum when it starts to spin slowly as it drains off for it to kind of wobble like front to back, it sometimes does this before it gets into the full spin.
The drum feels springy when I put my hand in, I suppose this is normal.
EDIT.
I have just had a look inside the door at the drum and there is nothing to suggest a problem.
I actually think it could be the holes on the paddles rather than on the steel drum itself, I may be wrong of course.
Re: Holes 3mm x 2mm found on clothes using Beko WM 5140 W
Martin wrote:
And you started noticing holes in clothing before or since this event?To be honest that event happened not too long after it had been installed, so I would have to say the holes have appeared from that time.
I have done a simple 5 tee-shirt wash since at a synthetic 40 degree quick wash with no bath towels or heavy items, and they washed with no holes apparent.
I have just completed a wash that contained around 4 pairs of male cotton pants, and 2 cotton tee-shirts, plus one pair of pyjama shorts, and I put them all into a net wash bag made for this purpose. They appeared to wash fine with no apparent holes, but 2 pair of pants had managed to come out of the net bag, so either I had forgotten to zip it, or it has opened by itself which if it was the latter then that will be a worry as the bag isn’t meant to open.
I noticed that there is a 30 degree tub on the label of the net bag which I thought to be strange given that it is to be used for various types of wash.
That chap that came the last time said that the drum felt ok, should he have opened it up to look inside?
kwatt wrote:If you do and there’s no fault found you are very likely to be charged for the call.
K.
Would I be charged even though the washing machine is still under it’s year guarantee?
When the guy came the first time and found no fault when he put his hand along the drum there was certainly no charge for his visit.
kwatt wrote:If you do and there’s no fault found you are very likely to be charged for the call.
K.
Ok, well I will do as the advisor says and keep checking the wash.
I will put my best tee-shirts in a net wash bag as I quite clearly do not want them to be ruined by the odd hole regardless of who or what is to blame.
As I say the worrying thing in all this is that it makes the odd hole in tea towels. I certainly didn’t buy this machine for to have to put clothes in a wash bag first, I think I will go for a washing machine with the holes at the back the next time.
Re: Holes 3mm x 2mm found on clothes using Beko WM 5140 W
Do you think it would be best though to ask them for an engineer to take a look inside just to make sure that there ain’t a problem with the drum inside?
I notice that there are machines that have holes only at the back of the drum which face you directly after you open the door, on mine the holes are all around the circle of the steel drum in between each grey paddle.
Re: Holes 3mm x 2mm found on clothes using Beko WM 5140 W
Thanks for that, I must say however that yesterday as per the advisor’s instructions I just placed some tee-shirts in the machine and did the quick wash, and none of them had a hole, so maybe just maybe he is right about not putting in heavy items with lighter items such as large bath towels with tee-shirts and pants, however the hole in the quite reasonably new tea towel is the confusing issue.
Re: Holes 3mm x 2mm found on clothes using Beko WM 5140 W
All there is on the label are 5 symbols.
First one is a tub with 40 written in it, second is a black triangle with a black cross through it, third is a black square with a black circle in the middle with 2 black dots in the circle, fourth is an iron symbol with 2 black dots, and finally fifth is a black circle with a black cross through it, and it says 100 {e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} cotton.
kwatt wrote:What was the agitation mark on the care label and, what was the programs that was used?
There are different levels of agitation for different cotton items, denoted by the line under the bucket symbol. Every garment should have this mark, whether you see it or not or, even know what it means, is a different story.
Use the wrong one, you can get damage.
Also, low cost Indian, Chinese and other cotton garments do tend to suffer from this more than some, I don’t think I need to elaborate any further there.
If the machine caused the damage or the detergent used I’d be astounded.
K.
Not sure which agitation mark you are referring to.
The program I use mostly is the synthetics at 40 degrees quick wash option, this states that you can wash your less durable clothes on this program washes with gentler washing movements, so I would have thought that would be ok, but are you saying that depending on if it’s a cotton tee-shirt then it should be a cotton wash?
I am led to believe it is the spinning that causes the holes, but if that is the case then I am confused as I only use the slowest speed being 800RPM.
kwatt wrote:First things first, have you checked the care label on the clothing against what program used to wash the clothing with?
There has been a lot of discussion about small holes being left in clothes on multiple brands and models and on inspection it would appear to be a number of things that can cause it. None are related to any mechanical failure or design problem with the machines I’m afraid.
Usually it’s down to incorrect wash cycles being used and, in a couple of cases, the clothing itself that has proven to be faulty.
HTH
K.
Yes, I always take the greatest of care to wash in the correct mode, and I never try to fill it with too many items of clothing, however on the recent occasion with the tee-shirt I had stuck in a bath towel, would this have been enough to have caused the tee-shirt hole do you think?
The recent tee-shirt to have a hole is 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} cotton, and has the 40 degree symbol on it, and I had it in a 40 degree cycle as quick wash, as far as I am concerned there was nothing to suggest that it was something I had did wrong. The tee-shirt didn’t say to was at a particular speed, and as the wash I used is a max speed of 800rpm I wouldn’t have thought it would cause a problem. I use the 2 in 1 bold gel.
