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Re: Hotpoint WMF720: F-11 error code.
iadom,
Thanks for the offer re the part, but I ordered one last night which appears to be the right one (Part no. C00259298). The model number is WMF 720 P (UK).R The serial no. is 103178683* 30661190085.
I hope you’re not about to say this is the wrong part(!) but laundry pressure meant I wanted to try the only apparent/affordable fix, or else order something better equally fast.
On that subject, I’ve just been reading reviews of ISE vs Miele, and whilst both are loved, you’re very right about the Miele parts cost. One owner saying Miele quoted £460 for a new motor, ie more than most would spend on a generic washing machine.
The only negatives about the ISE seems to be availability & servicing, some posts suggesting the rarity of this brand makes these less straightforward. But most seem to think they never break down, a 10 year parts & labour guarantee included would suggest this level of confidence, whilst the ISE website even talks of ‘decades’. Not a claim you see on many white goods sites.
I am looking jealously at the ISE W256W, £900, a clunky (almost retro?) replacement for the 1607 you own. Are electronic displays a negative for longevity, as I can’t see one? And how long do ISE machines take to get hold of? I have always bought quality traditionally (Granny was right: ‘The best is cheapest in the long run’) but have previously been unable to gauge whether higher price meant better quality. They all look good from the outside.
Anyway, I’ll see what the pressure switch does.
Re: Hotpoint WMF720: F-11 error code.
Thanks for the warning about Miele, I didn’t realise they were so costly for parts.
I take your point about the car price analogy. My old Indesit bought in 1997 was about £280. In modern money, I guess you could double that. I thought the lower modern price was to do with efficiency in design & manufacture, but it would appear to be a ruthless cutting back on components. Outwardly, I really liked the apparent build quality & functions of my 13 month old Hotpoint, but inwardly (having meddled inside) it seems all pared back. No ‘hot fill’ valves on most standard/basic machines, for example.
I wonder why no-one I know has heard of ISE? I’m hoping they’re a long-term bet if I have to replace this machine?
Re: Hotpoint WMF720: F-11 error code.
Very interesting. I suppose that when you praise long-lived Hotpoint/Hoover/Zanussi machines, it’s because the machines they all built 20 years ago (in real terms, far more expensive than now) were to a higher build quality.
I need no convincing about Miele. ISE are new to me though, I’ve just read their website blurb and am wondering how much of this environmental impact stuff is genuinely intended, and how much is green sales blurb? Are ISE the top of the tree, in your opinion? Dare I ask what machine you have?!
Re: Hotpoint WMF720: F-11 error code.
Well if it still could be the pressure switch, I’ll risk a few quid on one. If that fails, it’s starting to sound like expensive electronics, possibly not worth the investment.
In the world of power tools, I’ve often bought and have always rated Bosch. I have a Miele vacuum cleaner, cost many times what you could have paid, but is a work of art really. It makes you realise how damn poor a lot of domestic electrical stuff is.
But the conundrum with expensive machines is whether, paying say three times the price, will give you as much life as three cheaper machines? Does the Miele end of the price scale come with long included warranties, or could I face a mechanical problem with a machine I could not so readily write-off, due to the high investment?
Re: Hotpoint WMF720: F-11 error code.
Worth trying a pressure switch,.
Does that mean it’s still possibly the switch to blame? At only £12, I’d happily give it a go, but I was thinking that the fact the error occurs on a Spin cycle with the pipe disconnected, ruled that out?
I’d noticed what appeared to be a ‘Digit Display Arcadia’, what I have, online for £56. Would that replace the electronics, if they were to blame, or are you saying there’s other kit required to then ‘program’ it?!
As an aside, if all else fails, what would you buy as a replacement in the quality price brackets you describe? I do realise that the price in pounds of white goods has stayed static over 10 or 20 years, meaning in real terms they’ve become much cheaper, and seemingly poorer quality.
One last question. When I registered for my 12 month default warranty, they claimed to offer 5 years of free parts cover. Would engineer charges make this a worthless in terms of saving if say the electronics have failed?
Re: Hotpoint WMF720: F-11 error code.
iadom – Thanks for the prompt reply. I’m a bit disheartened to read your comments about the quality of this machine. It wasn’t the cheapest I could have bought by quite a margin. My previous Indesit lasted 15 years!
Anyway, broken it is. I tried running the machine with the hose disconnected, as you suggested. The spin is timed at 16 mins, and somewhere around 6 mins into this the F-11 fault recurred, whilst the drum was only doing intermittent, slow turns and before any serious spinning had started.
Does this mean the Pressure Switch is not to blame? I’m guessing that electronic control modules will be too pricey to try?
