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  • in reply to: George Neumatic Hoover Stopped Working! #468935
    wayjay
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    Understood, thanks.

    in reply to: George Neumatic Hoover Stopped Working! #468933
    wayjay
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    electrofix wrote:
    two things pointed to it
    look at this simple diagram with a neutral break


    plug on the left cleaner on the right

    when you first posted you told us you were getting lives everywhere. This is a big give away. You were measuring at point B and D and got live. under normal situations without the break at E point D cannot be live
    the next thing was your meter readings. you got a buzz from A to B but you did not get a buzz from C to D. Which meant you must have a break from C to D

    does that make sense ?

    Dave

    Hi Dave,

    Apologies for the delay in responding. The image would not show on my phone and so had to review on desktop.

    Unfortunately, it doesn’t make sense as feels back to front. A break in the neutral gives a live (connectivity) response, whereby if there was no break in the cable, then it would not give a live (connectivity) response!

    in reply to: George Neumatic Hoover Stopped Working! #468931
    wayjay
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    electrofix wrote:from those readings look like a neutral break in the cable

    Dave

    Out of interest, what was it in the readings that made you think (or know) this?

    in reply to: George Neumatic Hoover Stopped Working! #468929
    wayjay
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    Sorted, trimmed a bit of cable and working as before, thanks for your help on this. 😀

    in reply to: George Neumatic Hoover Stopped Working! #468927
    wayjay
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    electrofix wrote:switches go as some of them are double pole you will get all lives

    cables can go. if you have a break on the neutral you will get all lives

    you need a multi meter to check for continuity. you can do it with a neon but it can be hit and miss. start with the flex. make sure the brown lights but the blue does not

    Dave

    ———————————————————————————————————
    Multi Meter results.
    Both Vacuum and Wash switches set to OFF.

    Test 1 Continuity (moulded plug).
    Live terminal on plug to live (brown) terminal on George = Beep

    Test 2 Continuity (moulded plug).
    Neutral terminal on plug to neutral (blue) terminal on George = No Beep

    • Vacuum switch set to ON, wash switch set to OFF.
    Test 3
    Continuity (moulded plug).
    Live terminal on plug to live (brown) terminal on George = Beep

    Test 4
    Neutral terminal on plug to neutral (blue) terminal on George = No Beep

    Test 5
    Neutral terminal on plug to live (brown) terminal on George = No Beep

    Test 6
    Live terminal on plug to live (brown) terminal on George = Beep

    Test 7
    Live terminal on plug to neutral (blue) terminal on George = Beep
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Also tested various other point to point connections and they appeared to be OK.

    Will cut away a section of cable, just to rule that out.

    in reply to: George Neumatic Hoover Stopped Working! #468924
    wayjay
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    The lid was off and there was no one around me. Also, I don’t go poking around in there and merely touched the exposed terminals.

    It doesn’t have the speed control, only two switches, one for the vac and one for the (wash) pump.

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