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July 26, 2006 at 6:12 pm #19458
burns
Participanttelephone engineer,alarm engineer, appliance engineer, boiler engineer mechanical engineer, electrical engineer,gas engineer, service engineer.
Its not a word protected by patent.
Each is qualified and trained to fulfill the task of his or her discipline.
The training and qualifications are to match the chosen career.The word engineer according to the dictionary is one who constructs or mends engines, amongst other things. Its not about how many qualifications one has. That just proves your understanding and ability to carry out your chosen career even if its mending appliances, which many find enjoyable.
Why not contact HM armed forces and complain about their use of the word Engineer, Royal no less. You may see them building a bridge, removing mines all sorts of things, but probably not doing what you consider to be the work of a qualified Engineer.
July 26, 2006 at 7:36 pm #183179kwatt
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burns wrote:Why not contact HM armed forces and complain about their use of the word Engineer, Royal no less. You may see them building a bridge, removing mines all sorts of things, but probably not doing what you consider to be the work of a qualified Engineer.
He was going to get hit with that one later. :snigger:
K.
July 26, 2006 at 9:39 pm #183180admin
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Thought this had died..Well hoped the pillock had dropped it…
bryan
July 26, 2006 at 9:44 pm #183181kwatt
KeymasterIt was, but I think that feelings on the comments where, shall we say, running high.
He’s history. If he returns under another guise, as he did yesterday IIRC, he’ll be history again.
K.
July 26, 2006 at 9:46 pm #183182macmini
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I don’t believe in what he said, whatsoever, if someone has a trade that they’re specialised in, then, in my opinion, they’re an engineer!
Technically, i’m a qualified ‘Network Engineer’, although, that probably classes me as a ‘Network Repairman’.
Troll.
July 27, 2006 at 8:31 am #183183philfish
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please let him back in i did not have my turn at the jumped up pillock!!!! please 😈 😈 :twisted:i have an idea of raising money you could sell raffle tickets whoever wins can have a go at him first just an idea should raise a fortune 😆 sorry can you tell im bored only 1 job in today hate the summer holidays 🙁
July 27, 2006 at 9:03 pm #183184andy2
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I recollect this topic being discussed in another thread some moons ago and it was agreed that correctly we should be called technicians!!
Having said that the term ‘engineer’ is very broad in its scope. eg. the men who drove the old steam trains were called ‘engineers’ and i don’t think many of them would have had a University degree (but i might be wrong).
You could argue that they (the ‘real engineers’) have hijacked the term and perverted its true meaning as it is evident that their definition is not the same as in the English dictionaries.
This person is obviously very proud of his achievements and does not want to be dragged down to the same level as a humble washing machine repair man – bless him!
Of course there is also the possibility that he was a successful wind up merchant – some people do get their kicks like this 😉 I suppose we shall never really know…………..
Andy 😀
July 27, 2006 at 9:49 pm #183185realengineer
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am realy sorry to say engineer is not the right word
i just try to fix things
trying to fix things that s what i do and like somebody here said tecnician might be a better word
whatever anyone calls him self is by the by ( sorry me belgium )
why not call me repairman or john the fixer
😳 :rolls:July 27, 2006 at 10:01 pm #183186kwatt
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Engineer is derived from the word “engine” and is a generic term used for anyone who works in a mechanical capacity.
Over the years, like many words in the English language, the word has evolved to mean different things to different people but still the general perception is someone that works in some sort of technical capacity or “engineers” schemas.
A civil engineer will design buidings, bridges etc. working out stress factors and all that sort of stuff.
A network engineer will design and/or maintain a computer network.
A chemical engineer will work with biological and/or chemical agents.
An electrical engineer will work with electrical schema.
Now, you tell me what have they all got in common?
The only thing that they have in common is the term “engineer”. The jobs are worlds apart, just as these jobs are from ours. Yet the fact remains that any technical job or a job involving the maintenence or design of mechanical devices are regarded as “engineering”.
So since we work with mechanical devices why shouldn’t we be labelled as engineers?
K.
July 27, 2006 at 10:02 pm #183187johnnyj
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I am an Electrical fitter who has an Hnc in Electrical and Electronic Engineering , do i qualify? who cares my contract of employment states i’m a FIeld service Engineer, that was a long time ago and i’ve been happy doing i could never go back to being cooped up, i love the open road, it’s not greatest pay but hey! the scenery i get to see every day people would die for and pay fortunes to go on holiday.
July 27, 2006 at 10:37 pm #183188andy2
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kwatt wrote:
So since we work with mechanical devices why shouldn’t we be labelled as engineers?No reason whatsoever. By definition 2, anybody who drives a car is an engineer.
Engineer:-
1. One who is trained or professionally engaged in a branch of engineering.
2. One who operates an engine.
3. One who skillfully or shrewdly manages an enterprise.Just shows how stupid matey boys arguments were. He was probably by definition an engineer long before he ‘qualified’ to be one.
Just as a matter of interest Ken, how is it possible to lock someone out from the public side of whitegoods as most IP addresses are dynamically assigned when logging on to your ISP ie. he will have a different address when he logs on again.
July 28, 2006 at 7:14 am #183189Martin
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andy2 wrote:3. One who skillfully or shrewdly manages an enterprise.
Strewth…..????!!!???? :martin: 😉
July 28, 2006 at 7:44 am #183190Bryan
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Was that definitely him back last night under the name Ken_W ❓
He doesn`t seem to have latched on to the IP address giving him away 😕 , maybe don`t teach common sense at university :).
Bryan
July 28, 2006 at 11:16 am #183191Dave_Conway
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We can’t tell 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} if it was him or not due to the dynamic IP address issue that Andy mentioned but the user name he chose plus his email address was a Yahoo one as previous, he used asfaq as part of that and the very nature of his post would lead you to believe so 😆
Plus, look at the way he went from poor grammar and punctuation to almost perfect in his last reply.
To answer Andy’s question, we can only ban the user name and/or the email address Andy due to that very reason, it may well block someone else on the same IP. Unless they are on a static IP or a company range of IP’s which would block anyone from the same building or buildings sharing a server of course 😉
That leaves it wide open for any possible “troll” to simply get a new email address and sign up under a new user name, as in the case of Dave_P and mjk8.
Dave.
July 28, 2006 at 12:51 pm #183192Goatboy
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Dave_Conway wrote:That leaves it wide open for any possible “troll” to simply get a new email address and sign up under a new user name, as in the case of Dave_P and mjk8.
That sounds like alot of effort just to annoy people 😕
Goatboy (Engineer – Show me a river, and I’ll build you a bridge)
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