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February 7, 2008 at 9:25 am #34396
kladave
ParticipantSince the introduction of the weee directive i have been lucky enough to store all of my weee waste.I would like to know how much per unit i can expect from the scrap man as i now need the space.
I also get the impression that these scrap men/pikeys 😉 don’t care much about weee/record keeping and are happy just to take it away.
I have lost count this week how many have turned up at my door requesting scrap.I have also left items outside our workshop door overnight by accident only to find said items are not there in the morning,so how the heck do these pikeys get round the weee directive then??Dave
February 7, 2008 at 2:11 pm #242450Martin
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kladave wrote:so how the heck do these pikeys get round the weee directive then??
By stripping the goods by hand, seperating steel from aluminium, copper from zinc and taking it to a Scrap metal merchants for the best price. 😉
The rest is fly-tipped down a dark country lane or inner city brownfield site 😯
Must be what they call Weeee’ing in the night I suppose? :rolls:
February 7, 2008 at 5:18 pm #242451timdowning
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I would be surprised that they strip the machines down. Too much hard work for not much reward.
As long as they have a waste carriers licence they can take the scrap to a yard like anyone else.
My Metal merchants are paying £95 per 1000kg.
Which roughly gets you £5 to £7 per machine.
February 7, 2008 at 5:53 pm #242452Lawrence
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I take scrap appliances to my local scrap dealer 5 machines = on average £35-£40.
I always get a weighbridge ticket and write on how many machines were scrapped ,I also put all the tickets through the books ,so everything is legit .
LawrenceFebruary 7, 2008 at 6:58 pm #242453Dales-Electronic
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Life is never that simple – If you are a retailer of appliances and you deliver and install at a customers home, (assuming the customer wants you to take away the old appliance – which you are legally obliged to do) you need a waste carriers licence to move controlled waste from the customer to either your workshop or the authorised treatment facility. Remember as far as the regulations are concerned the customer is discarding the appliance, it therefore becomes waste under the terms of the WEEE directive. If you take the appliance back to your workshop the workshop must be registered with the Environment Agency as a producer of waste. Depending on what type of appliance the item is, you have to deal with them in different ways, all refrigeration is handled by specialised treatment facilities whilst the other range of appliances can be dealt with at a scrap yard. Whichever, you have to be able to produce evidence that you have removed the appliance from the customer and transfered it to its final resting place. ie Customer to You, You to treatment facility (or scrap yard) Scrapyard to Producer Compliance Scheme. As you will have noted Pikeys are not too interested in collecting your fridges, as this is going to cost them to get rid – they will happily take your washers etc and they then weigh them in for cash. Their days are numbered. As with you we get them knocking on the door nearly every day but politely tell them that we can’t let them take them away. At the end of the day you have to account to the EA for you quota. In this area we are getting between £60-70 a tonne. Tim obviously lives in a more afluent are than us.
February 7, 2008 at 8:01 pm #242454timdowning
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Tim obviously lives in a more afluent are than us.
Up until December I was getting £75 per 1000 kg. Now its shot up to £95 per 1000kg virtually overnight.
Its makes the risk of getting scraps of metal stuck in your tyres a bit more worthwhile! 😀
February 7, 2008 at 8:29 pm #242455kladave
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Tim, have you got a waste carriers licence?? or are they (pikeys) coming to you??
Dave
February 7, 2008 at 9:40 pm #242456timdowning
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I have a waste carriers licence. I used to let ‘steve the scrap man’ come and collect them, but since WEEE I have been doing it myself.
Luckily I have a Metal Merchants five miles from where I live.
Maybe i’m a bit of a miser but its quite satisfying getting money for the old machines.
I generally get the Merchant to keep a tally of the weight I scrap and get the money and receipt monthly.
February 26, 2008 at 8:06 pm #242457waters
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Are we absolutly sure we need a waste carriers licence if we have a shop.
February 26, 2008 at 8:26 pm #242458Lawrence
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if you transport old appliances,used spares,customers machines to workshop and back ,you have to have a waste carriers licence.
LawrenceFebruary 26, 2008 at 9:29 pm #242459tanner
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Hi Guys,
You need to be very careful about this one, i was driving home from guildford the other week, when a copper walked into the road in front of me asking me to pull in.
Once stopped they checked everything bar my fillings and the reason for stopping me was to see what waste i was carrying.
luckly i was ok, one question they did ask was were i scrapped my machines, he told me i must ask my local scrap yard if i can see there waste licence.
I have always recycled my old machine correctly i feel all of this is just desighned to make all our lives harder.
oh by the way if you are caught on the wrong side of the law on this i was told by said copper that it could cost me THIRTY Grand.rgds
stuartFebruary 26, 2008 at 9:37 pm #242460Lawrence
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tanner wrote:if you are caught on the wrong side of the law on this i was told by said copper that it could cost me THIRTY Grand.rgds stuart
This is why I have a waste carriers licence and dispose of old machines at an authorised scrap facility,and always get paperwork to prove what I have diposed of ,I also leave as many old parts with the customers as possible .
LawrenceFebruary 26, 2008 at 10:08 pm #242461cooky
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How many of you guys who “scrap” there own machines use a waste transfer note when taking your scrap to your local metal merchants?How many of you have scrap refrigeration on there premises?
February 27, 2008 at 8:31 am #242462waters
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I was asked at local scrap yard before they accepted the scrap if i had a waste carriers licence or a shop.I am looking into it now because i had a day off yesterday and i had had a visit from people checking on Wee.They left be some paperwork and a contact card
February 27, 2008 at 4:49 pm #242463waters
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Spoke to environment agency today to two different people.One said we need one ,the other said if i take parts off machines to reuse then i am not scrapping complete machines ,so i do not need one.So to be sure i will get one.
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