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March 13, 2010 at 2:58 pm #53220
LJDomestics
ParticipantAs you all know certain hotpoint ( amongst other brands ) have sealed drums in them.
Now tbh im a little fed up of having to BER these machines due to the price of a replacement complete drum assy.
So i was wondering if anyone has a supplier of this part at a sensible price???
Alternatively, ive not looked into this as yet but am wondering if any other repairable drum complete assy’s will fit as a replacement, wma series maybe?
Thx in advance as always.
Lee
March 13, 2010 at 3:57 pm #314910Phidom
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I think the suspension positions are different on the WMA. You may be able to mix & match if you are reconditioning machines though. You could use the fascia, modules, motor etc from a scrap sealed drum machine in an earlier WF model. In that way you might convert a bottom of the range to a top of the range version.
March 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm #314911iadom
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Not really a feasible option, software different, motor mountings different, pump is fitted to the front on sealed drums so most internal hoses including pressure chamber different as is pressure switch.
Its not just Hotpoint, I have written off a 26 month old Bosch and a 13 month old Whirlpool plus a couple of Zanussi machines in past few months, all with bearings failed in welded drums.
The Hotpoint welded drum is £76ish ex vat list price. You would need a new cabinet, pump, hoses, pressure switch, suspension assy, wiring harness plus a few other bits to fit a screwed drum to a welded drum machine.
Jim.
March 13, 2010 at 6:01 pm #314912Madmac
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iadom wrote:
Its not just Hotpoint, I have written off a 26 month old Bosch and a 13 month old Whirlpool plus a couple of Zanussi machines in past few months, all with bearings failed in welded drums.
Yes, not only are they not economically viable to repair, they do seem to fail sooner than the average split tub from earlier times. 🙁
We’ve been over this before but why the hell are the government or Brussels not noticing this utterly wasteful profiteering by the whites manufacturers??
Joe public isnt allowed a traditional light bulb any more but Indesit, Electrolux & the rest can produce major appliances with 2 year lifespans 👿March 13, 2010 at 6:03 pm #314913Allsorts
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Maybe someone like Qualtex should have the same drum manufactured with screws… They would make a killing
March 13, 2010 at 7:13 pm #314914LJDomestics
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Yes this machine is only 19 months old too, fed up of billionaire companies producing crap for financial gain.
March 13, 2010 at 7:45 pm #314915Madmac
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Allsorts wrote:Maybe someone like Qualtex should have the same drum manufactured with screws… They would make a killing
Interesting idea Allsorts.. really all we would need to beat the Ba*tards is someone to produce a copy outer tub which screws together & has bearings & seal fitted.
A couple of mins with the angle grinder could split the old tub & free the drum for re-use.. assuming the spider was ok 😯
It might happen.. you never know.. (is that Hell i see freezing over?) :clown:March 13, 2010 at 9:29 pm #314916iadom
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Trouble is, all the sealed Hotpoint drums have the crappy 30mm shaft & bearings. 😥
I can’t see anyone being able to produce an alternative drum for less than the £76.59 ex vat that Hotpoint do. Mind you Masterparts price for the same part of nearly £112 ex vat is a bit naughty. :rolls:
Wonder what Connects price for a 1605490 is?
March 13, 2010 at 10:39 pm #314917boselecta
Participanthi
I have put a few WMA tubs in replace of wf machine where the bearings have gone.Bear in mind you will need a donor WMA machine as you will need the wma motor, counterweights, pump assembly, sump etc.
On the WF machines I have done the suspension positions are in the same position.
Don’t forget the pressure switch as the sealed drum switch fills very low when put in a WMA.
Also the wiring to the heater and the pump will need to be extended.
Basically its a big job, I found it quite interesting though, havn’t had any recalls from either of them yet!.
March 13, 2010 at 11:33 pm #314918gandh1
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most of my customers decline a repair, so the bearing failure machines get electrically stripped, and the next electrical ber i get has a non-ber repair 🙂
that is unless ive saved a electrical ber machine that has a good tub cos i didnt have the s/h electronics at the time.
then i hybridise for a recon 🙂
March 14, 2010 at 10:09 am #314919LJDomestics
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gandh1 wrote:most of my customers decline a repair, so the bearing failure machines get electrically stripped, and the next electrical ber i get has a non-ber repair 🙂
that is unless ive saved a electrical ber machine that has a good tub cos i didnt have the s/h electronics at the time.
then i hybridise for a recon 🙂
Well thats what ive decided to do as when i go to sealed drum bearing failures now i dont charge anything at all if they let me have the machine.
But i was hoping to find a cheaper supplier of a complete drum and wack out a few recon’s.
March 14, 2010 at 2:10 pm #314920robbra
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If it’s a Hotpoint with a sealed drum I hope you point them in the direction of their 5 year parts guarantee
March 14, 2010 at 6:09 pm #314921LJDomestics
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but still £104 for hotpoint to call?
March 14, 2010 at 6:48 pm #314922gandh1
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yeh and also in my recent experience with customers, hotpoint wont do it just for the £106. they INSIST on the extra labour/warranty. basically if you tell them its a bearing failure they’re call centre are refusing to state in writing they will do the job for £106!
and one of my more unfortunate customers were unwittingly conned into paying for the extra labour because the bearing failure repair took approx 1hr 15mins. she was annoyed because she reckons the engineer took about 10 mins doing the “minimal” paperwork, and there were numerous visits to his van for at least 5 or so mins – 4 or 5 times during the first hour. apparently once was definitely a fag break, so shes taken it up with hp’s c/s. even i have to admit it sounds somewhat suspicious,
and the real question is have the indesit/hp engineers unofficially been told either by their line managers or head office for the more difficult/expensive repairs to eek it out?
March 14, 2010 at 6:57 pm #314923Phidom
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I would have thought Hotpoint would have set times for different jobs. If the engineer happens to be slower than most, the customers should not have to pay extra. :rolls:
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