Strix to Diamond H ?????

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  • #67576
    iadom
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    This Strix is not listed on the downloadable pdf.

    Strix OG1003

    Creda Solarglo 48343.

    Original wiring conns. on Strix regulator OG1003
    Live to P1
    Neutral to 4
    It then has a double black and a single black wire on terminal 2 but the wiring diagram only shows a single connection to terminal 2 and no pilot light?????

    The leaflet that comes with the new Diamond H 40ER101C19 states that the wire from 4 should now be placed on 4A but there is no mention of the two separate wires, one double black and one single black that went to terminal 2. The Diamond H only has a single terminal 2 😕

    Just to add, the enclosed leaflet doesn’t match up with the connections for the Diamond H 40ER101C1P listed in the pdf.

    It shows Supply to 4A & P1 and load to 4A & 2. ????

    #367840
    spimps
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    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    Had the same a while ago but cant remember much other than having to use the theoretic appliance diagram combined with the new controls (which works differently internally to a strix) diagram to work out the circuit,starting from scratch really.
    Not easy.
    BG

    #367841
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    A real headache, the theoretical diagram shows three connections to the regulator for both the Strix and Diamond H but the enclosed leaflet has four connectors on the new Diamond H in use.

    It has to be something to do with the two separate black wires that originally went to 2 on the Strix, at least I think it has. 😕

    #367842
    spimps
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    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    I follwed a recently ex hotponint engineer who gave up,I nearly did but decided to spend an extra hour or so as I don’t like being beaten.
    I have a diagram of a solar glow you can have with strix controls if it is of any help,pm me if required.
    I looked at how the new control actually switches internally then adapted the wiring to and from element to suit.
    Cheers
    BG

    #367843
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    Sadly I have to confess that I have already lost the ( £85) electronic controller on this, took out the RCD but not before it had goosed the timer unit. 🙁

    I actually had two regulators to change on this thing, one was a like for like Diamond H, the other one is costing me dear.

    I have both the theoretical wiring and the wiring connection diagrams in front of me.

    The original Strix has got a single terminal 4 and a double terminals P1 & 2. The wiring connection chart shows a double connection to terminal 4 and a single one to terminal 2, exactly the opposite of what is actually in the damned thing. :rolls:

    #367844
    spimps
    Participant

    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    It cost me a controller as I welded the internal contacts on the first controller,hot sweats and all that.
    Was there a diagram with the new controller that shows the internals of the controller?

    #367845
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    I’ll let you know when it arrives tomorrow. 😉

    This is a scan of the leaflet, as you can see it makes no mention of the double connection to terminal 2 on original. The scribbles are mine BTW. 🙂

    I am now going to go with,

    Double live feed (two red ) to P1
    Double neutral feed ( two black )to 4A
    Load ( single red )to 4A
    Load ( single black ) to 2

    Any thoughts?

    #367846
    spimps
    Participant

    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    You could trace the load wires back to the element to ensure that is straightforward,test to see it is ok and then pilot could be piggy backed onto the appropiate load connection.
    If you still have a problem I’ll pop back to the one I did a while ago and check the wiring.
    These jobs come along now and again,juggles the grey matter!

    #367847
    iadom
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    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    There are no pilot lights for the rings on this though.

    #367848
    spimps
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    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    iadom wrote:There are no pilot lights for the rings on this though.

    Sorry,is it the neons on that showing which plate is still hot.

    #367849
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    TBH I don’t think this model has that feature, will double check in the manual later.

    #367850
    DentedPorsche
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    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    I think I’m losing something reading through the thread.
    The strix, is it a single regulator having connections P1, 2 and 4 only?

    #367851
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    Correct, I have it in front of me as I type.

    One single terminal 4
    One double terminal 2
    One double terminal P1 ( only one of which was used ).

    It had live to P1, Neutral and load to 2 and load to 4.

    What is confusing is that the wiring connection chart (page 19 in the manual ) shows 2 wiring connections to terminal 4 and only 1 to terminal 2, this is exactly the opposite of what this one has.

    Jim.

    #367852
    DentedPorsche
    Participant

    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    OK, the original wiring diagram (which you no doubt have) shows double to 4 and single to 2. you have a double and a single on 2? Where does the double go off to?
    I don’t see any hob hot lights so wondering where the extra wires are linked to.

    #367853
    iadom
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    Re: Strix to Diamond H ?????

    Won’t know exactly until I go back tomorrow with new controller, I have allowed plenty of time. 😉

    Jim.

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