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Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
And the other important question: Liquid or powder, Which is best?
(The overall scores for powders are missing from the table.)
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
stratfordgirl wrote:(The overall scores for powders are missing from the table.)
Sorry that’s my mistake, corrected below……..
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
Thanks Martin, pretty conclusive that powders are generally better at cleaning, except for greasy stains, consistent with advice I’ve been giving for the last 8 years.
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
For whites, definitely powder based detergent, not the colour care versions, because of the bleach content. Or if using liquid or gel detergent, add Vanish Oxi-action powder to the drawer to make up for the bleach missing from liquid detergent.
For dark colours, liquid or gel based detergent is often best, to avoid fading the clothes and visible powder residue. Or use powder based detergent, but the colour care version which does not include bleach.
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
How many times will I do this… 😆
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/clea … gents.html
All the basics you need to know. One article.
There’s no need for Vanish or any of the other expensive add ons that the supermarkets et all will flog people (a conversation in itself) at all… so long as users actually understand what the devil they’re doing.
Most often they do not.
It will often fall to you guys to educate them.
K.
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
kwatt wrote:How many times will I do this… 😆
You’re stuck with it pal. Great article, tells it like it is for sure. The only thing is that it is dedicated entirely towards P&G as the B all and end all in washing technology. But today, years after the article was written, there are far far cheaper alternatives which do the same job. Oh yes!
Your challenge is, can you prove beyond reasonable doubt that Ariel is better than Almat? I don’t have the benefit of visiting P&G’s test lab but I’m certain they too test their competitors products in the fervent hope of staying one step ahead of the competition. But I suspect their motive is simply to stay up there and can do little to change what cannot be improved any further short of giving it a new name on an old product. Such like “Sonic formula with magi lift” or maybe “includes Supercool wash technology” same product though they may just change the colour, different name. Marketing bull shoosh and nothing more.
So how come Almat gets such a high rating? And where do they get the stuff from? Back door bulk purchase from the Lever Bros factory in China?
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
I don’t know about Almat Martin and I’ve not tested it. And, to do so correctly, you really need a lab or it’d take months and months.
Anecdotally I have seen a number of over foam issues with it, especially the liquid but that’s about as much as I know.
There is no information I can find on it beyond that.
It may well be great for you but I suspect you’re dosing properly etc whereas most of the public at large just won’t.
K.
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
I think we have to take the likes of aldi and lidl seriously. Their own brands are great value for money. As I’ve said we live very close to one of them and a lot of their stuff is much cheaper and a lot better than most of the other major supermarkets
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kwatt wrote:It may well be great for you but I suspect you’re dosing properly etc whereas most of the public at large just won’t.
True, yes dosage a very important factor. Almat is a good product and unbelievably cheap, works for me. 😀
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
I even produced a small leaflet for my customers to decide on the choice of washing powder/liquid. Most people don’t realise that the dosage instructions are for 5kg drum. Most if not all of my customers own 7 – 8 kg drum. This means more detergent.
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twicknix wrote:I even produced a small leaflet for my customers to decide on the choice of washing powder/liquid. Most people don’t realise that the dosage instructions are for 5kg drum. Most if not all of my customers own 7 – 8 kg drum. This means more detergent.
Sadly, I think wrong. 😉
Detergent manufacturers will say otherwise of course as it’s in their interest to sell more product but, they fail to take into account the efficiency gains in moderns machines. They also fail to mention that people will usually either under or overload and that the dose is largely based on that one factor along with soil level and water hardness.
Let me illustrate it this way…
I went back as far as I could, I think I dug up some dose instructions from the early 90’s and, lo and behold, no change to the instructions on the side of a modern pack.
Now, back then it was rare to get an A class wash and/or an A class energy rating yet today we’re on A++++ with A+ or A++ being the norm as well as larger capacity. So, the question is, how can that dose recommendation remain the same?
I don’t suppose clothes have gotten dirtier in the main.
I don’t even suppose that water hardness around the country has altered.
All the while users are just confused by it all and invariably get it wrong. We get moans and groans about residues, poor wash results, over foaming and all the rest of it that are all to do with this in all such instances looked at.
The actual engineer in the house often looks, in the eyes of the customer, to not have a clue as they often don’t know either.
But, it isn’t rocket science to work out who gains from all this and who loses along with who has to pick up the pieces.
K.
Re: Ariel or Almat, Which is best?
Are you saying that the water consumption remained the same throughout while the drum got bigger and at the same time more “efficient”? Note how I used the inverted comma, my opinion that most of my customers wants quick wash rather than wait for 4 hours which meant their A+++ machine is no different than their old A rated machine therefore the savings were wiped out because of the quick wash.
You are right about the confusion on dosage so would it be better to use tablets then?
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twicknix wrote:my opinion that most of my customers wants quick wash rather than wait for 4 hours which meant their A+++ machine is no different than their old A rated machine therefore the savings were wiped out because of the quick wash.
Sounds to me that you are just as confused over the function of ‘Quick Wash’ as your customers.
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