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Re: Beko or Hotpoint
madrat wrote:New world, Zanussi, Stoves, Cannon & Belling. Any good?
New World = Stoves (Glen Dimplex Group)
Zanussi = Electrolux Group
Belling = either Glen Dimplex or Beko (mostly Beko these days it seems)
Cannon – Indesit Group
Fun isn’t it. 😉
K.
Re: Beko or Hotpoint
Looks like Zanussi New world/Stoves then unless anyone else wants to coment 😕
Re: Beko or Hotpoint
You will get what you are prepared to pay for….. MrsP didn’t want to pay a right lot; but then I’m only the bread winner, not the Senior Incineration Operative. 😀
Penguin45.
the flavel /leisure stats are known to run 50 dgrees out
ive fitted a rake of them
the stoves have the whistling grill burner problem
the hotpoint/indesit are just pantsid be looking at the zanussi myself
have you not figured it out yet?
your not gonna win
unless you spend a lot , zanussi are the best of an average bunch
lol
the grill runs for 5 minutes and then it sounds like a plane is about to land in your kitchen
bit hit and miss.. some you can cure , some you cant
stoves arent bad apart from that
helo_75 wrote:the flavel /leisure stats are known to run 50 dgrees out
You haven’t got one kicking about that might be “in calibration” have you? :rotfl:
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I recalibrate the stats myself, the new ones are always miles out so its the only way to fix them really.
Stoves 50cm cookers were made by Beko for quite a while, looks like they have started making their own again now but beware as there are still plenty of the old Beko ones around the shops still, these cookers though are front flued so when you use the oven the front of the cooker gets very hot in fact uncomfortably hot if you are cooking on the hotplate too at the same time.
Belling and new world are mainly beko at 50cm even though they are owned by the same people as stoves, dont be tempted by a single cavity belling or new world either as these make beko look like rolls royce.
Re: Beko or Hotpoint
After I had that rubbish Servis thing for a bit I came across a CDA gas oven that was just as bad and learned a few interesting things, some of it will be of more interest to the likes of WSTS.
What they do is this…
A lot of the burners and stats are produced in, you guessed it, Asia. Specifically, China.
The quality is low and calibration terrible but it’s the only way to keep the costs down. The design of those burners in particular, is absolutely critical to how a gas appliance works and, how efficiently it works.
The easy way to understand that is to think on a gas hob burner. If the flame shoots out the way too much a lot of the heat goes up the side of the pan, sort of like using a burner that’s too big for the pot only on the poorly designed or poor quality ones it seems the right burner for the right pot but the pot doesn’t heat up the way it should. So, you get a hot pot handle and a lot of wasted energy.
You get the same things going on in the oven and grill. Poor quality burners put flame everywhere except where it should be so the machine performs poorly.
In the trade stuff you’ll often see, on gas appliances, stuff like “burners by Sabaf” because of this. Sabaf are an Italian gas burner specialist that do make good, well designed burners. The problem is of course that European made stuff is much more expensive than the Chinese stuff is, often over double the price.
Now, when you have a company trying to cut costs all over the place to be the cheapest guess what they do? 😉
Think on this though, it costs about £25 to move a box, even in bulk, from factory to wherever in the UK. It costs the same again to get it to the retailer from port. Then you have The exchequer’s slice of 15{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} VAT. You have the dealer margin. You have storage costs. You have the cost of any warranty. Etc.
Now, take all that off think on how much the machine actually cost to build. Then think, what you expect for that sort of money.
K.
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