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September 8, 2014 at 3:15 pm #82143
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ParticipantHi. Here we go again!
Bosch d/w flashes up within 2 mins of starting with E21, but she tells me that at one time it flashed up E24 but if she opened the door and closed it again it would at least wash.
Present situation is the wash motor will usually not work and when it does it sounds a little `off` hence E21?
Does anyone know if this is common, and how do you to go about replacing the motor. Things this machine will do as I write this and in this order: o/let pump comes on and a pulsed wash motor, though as I said sounds a little off key, then it lets in water but the motor never starts up to draw the water so to let more water in. I thought it might have been the flow counter but I can see it whizzing round and the reed thing measures ok and I disconnected the 2 wires to see what would happen if anything-it filled longer before flashing up, as expected, a compleletly different code. Any ideas am I missing something?September 8, 2014 at 4:06 pm #418847Martin
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“sounds a little off”… The clues are there…..something caught in the circ pump I reckon.
September 10, 2014 at 9:09 pm #418848sce
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After a lot of hassle discovered that the impellor was warped rather than something trapped in the wash motor. Scrapped! Sing a long: Another one bites the dust and another one gone and another one`s gone…..I used to have respect for Bosch products once up to 2006 but this newer stuff is rubbish, better off with a Beko dishwasher at least they`re cheap to fix and if not at least you haven`t lost much which is what the real Green Agenda in whitegoods was always going to be and is, in other words why buy something micro proccessor based, as they all are these days, because no matter how much you spend they can all go pop at anytime; as they do; as they will with the old Bosch models, and most other makes, the timers were the last things to fail and you could rely on them not to. So it is better to devalue as scrap to 10 quid from 200 than devalue from 500+ to 20 quid spares or repair is it not?
September 10, 2014 at 10:45 pm #418849eastlmark
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Why scrap? have you seen how cheap the pump is for those? (£62 from qualtex) and it includes the heater, formerly £90 odd in itself on previous Bosch dishwashers. Easy change too once you get the hang of it.
September 11, 2014 at 7:47 am #418850sce
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Her idea to scrap it certainly not my idea! Yes I looked up the price and it is reasonable I`d be the first to agree and I quoted a reasonable figure to get the job- I`m only charging labour and call out at 35 quid plus parts and that is round Henley-on-Thames hardly classed as a “poor area”- though many are probably in debt up to their eye balls if truth be known; shame she`s choosen to throw it, what a waste! Mind you last year I went to repair a Hotpoint w/m and a bloke turned up to collect a Miele built-in frothy coffee machine, 2000 grands worth, got talking to the owner and she said she`d had Miele out to repair the thing, twice, I won`t touch the things even though I was never asked to, and was quoted 600 quid to repair the offending thing- it was going out on its final journey into oblivion, and if what she told me are the correct figures why bother with this expensive stuff anymore.There again, she`s replaced it with a table top R/Hobbs thing, I think, so that should last hmm, let me think, 2 years at the most? The best thing is to have nothing or the bear minimum, maybe we should all look to the Jains for inspiration?
September 11, 2014 at 3:51 pm #418851Martin
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sce wrote:that is round Henley-on-Thames
Do you operate out of Woodcote by any chance?
September 19, 2014 at 1:02 am #418852sce
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No Martin, near Reading, but I know who you were thinking of.
September 19, 2014 at 6:24 am #418853philfish
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£35?? In that neck of the woods?! Blimey that’s a bit on the low side ain’t it?
Thought you would be getting / charging a higher rate then that around there.Phil
October 3, 2014 at 4:13 pm #418854sce
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Yes it is low, very low for this rip off area, because it`s close to Sin city but this reflects three things (1) I`m never without work, not a single day, word gets around very fast that I don`t fleece people. (2) I mostly deal with repairs to pretty old, originally cheap to medium priced machines, where noone is going to spend a fortune getting stuff fixed or they`ll scrap the stuff, afterall a replacement machine is cheap to buy whether it is a pile of Euro/Asian modern eco based cr*p is immaterial-I refuse to sell any new machines because of this.I also repair very cheap brands like Bush…Vestel stuff because someone has to and I like them for what they are……so there!! Good business when you know what spares fit what and avoid Partmaster/Connects outrageous parts prices for these machines…..25 quid for a belt; a bunch of tos*ers, so some have said, but of course I never would! Most of my work is by word of mouth, but I do alot of flyers too and my area is fairly small-no tearing off 30 miles to a job for me anymore. (3) My vehicle is 16 years old but looks good, not a tatty wreck, but is worth nothing and so expendable at MOT times should the need arise and so no fancy new van on costly HP. Most of my jobs are between £35 and £80 with most being £60 and I do not get involved, or only rarely, with p c board replacements. Bearings I have a different charge rate which is variable depending on the machine- usually 80 to 110 quid with perhaps a few other parts chucked in to the bargain as and when. I do some letting agent/ private LL`s work, not too much just enough, and I`m am choosey who I`ll do work for until I know them ( and visa versa )and how much until I`m paid what they owe me-I very rarely get problems and when I do it is an admin error. Business is good 3 to 5 jobs a day, usually 4 but getting better, 5 days a week, work it out! Trying to breath some realistic thinking in to this sorry trade, over charge and you`ll get few jobs- people hate feeling they`ve been ripped off as much as you and I do, charge something realistic and reasonable and people will get `em repaired and come back again and tell their mates, shame garage mechanics don`t do likewise: a bunch of lying deceitful sharks most of them, at least around here! And above all it is better than working my arse off to fund some other buggers` life style by working for someone else and allows me just enough time to run my other side line business.
October 3, 2014 at 7:04 pm #418855Martin
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sce wrote:Yes it is low, very low for this rip off area
Andy has now upped his charges to 40 quid for Saturday morning call-outs. 😉
October 4, 2014 at 9:27 am #418856sce
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He has indeed. Outrageous!!!!
Luckily his side line business as a theatre Dresser and make-up artist keeps him occupied for evening work fitting costumes to 19 to 25 year old actresses though he tells me it only pays 6 quid an hour; not much I hear you cry but apparently this is all he can afford!!!October 7, 2014 at 5:49 pm #418857smeghead
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eastlmark wrote:Why scrap? have you seen how cheap the pump is for those? (£62 from qualtex) and it includes the heater, formerly £90 odd in itself on previous Bosch dishwashers. Easy change too once you get the hang of it.
easy to change! how long does it take then- total strip down job innit’, 2-2 1/2 hours ?
if there’s an easy way I wish I knew!
Clive.October 7, 2014 at 6:00 pm #418858Andy jones
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smeghead wrote:
eastlmark wrote:
Why scrap? have you seen how cheap the pump is for those? (£62 from qualtex) and it includes the heater, formerly £90 odd in itself on previous Bosch dishwashers. Easy change too once you get the hang of it.easy to change! how long does it take then- total strip down job innit’, 2-2 1/2 hours ?
if there’s an easy way I wish I knew!
Clive.
Their not too bad, drop the base off which is the worst bit but after I done 1 I managed to get the base off in about 10 mins on the next one
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDOctober 7, 2014 at 6:05 pm #418859smeghead
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a big hammer was it?
10 minutes , seriously ? how.October 7, 2014 at 6:15 pm #418860Andy jones
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Once sides etc are off, remove module,rear cover ( waste and fill hose ) disconnect door hinge cables, lay it back and prise the base away. Really wasn’t too bad, this was an integrated machine though so assume it would be the same for free standing
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