Clothes never gets rinsed properly

[jaffacake2000]

I have an indesit IWDD 7213 washer dryer which is 1 year old. The problem is no matter how many times i rinse, water with detergent still comes out. I can see this as the sink fills up with water when the machine empties. Sometimes there is some foam/soap left and sometimes after about 5 or 6 rinses i can see the water slowing coming through abit more clear but there is still detergent residue left it never gets rinsed properly.

So, i thought because rinses are done with cold water, i have now started giving it a second or third wash program with hot water but without any detergent but still comes out with unclean/cloudy/murky water and which represents detergent residue from the clothes meaning the clothes are nevre really fully cleaned or rinsed.

What should i do ?

[kwatt]

Re: Clothes never gets rinsed properly

First, run a maintenance wash to clear out any residues in the machine. Although in this sort of situation I would advise to run it with no detergent at all as you’re trying to clear out any residue detergent.

http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/clea … -wash.html

Depending on how much is in there, you may need to repeat the process and if it’s severe this may take several cycles to clear it out. The water when on a maintenance wash with no detergent load should show no sign of foam or detergent.

Second, tell us how hard/soft the water is or the region that you live in and we’ll find out.

Third, we need to know what detergent you’re using.

I suspect though that you need to cut down on detergent.

HTH

K.

[jaffacake2000]

Re: Clothes never gets rinsed properly

I already do maintenance wash using the manufacturers special formula which comes in a sachet on 60 degrees but I will do one without detergent and on 90 degrees as you say.

I guess in London the water is hard coz i have limescale built up all around the tap in the sink.

At the moment I am using Daz powder. I used to use Bold and i thought that was the problem. Recently i switched to Daz liquitabs and its 10x worse and I had to rinse each item of clothing in a bowl full of water about 8 times in the tub.

Im not using much detergent. I used to use 135ml for a 7kg load like it says on the box, then used half of that, now use sometimes 50, sometimes 30 or even 20. But the lesser amount i use the clothes dont get cleaned properly.

When i just used Daz liquitabs yesterday it did an excellent job of making my clothes clean and bright but had the problem with too much of it left in my clothes so will never use that again.

[captaincaveman1]

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Using loose powder is a bad idea these days due to the machines using a lot less water and avoid gels and liquids as these don’t dissolve properly at low tempretures stick to tablets that you place in the drawer and not the drum and as Kwatt has said you need to do a few 90 degree washes and then keep doing it on a regular basis. Another thing that causes poor rinsing is overloading so consider that as well.

[nigegt]

Re: Clothes never gets rinsed properly

Plus if water comes up in the sink your sink drain must be restricted and so when the machine moves on to its next stage some of that water in your sink goes the easy path back into your washer.

[iadom]

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captaincaveman1 wrote:Using loose powder is a bad idea these days

Not so, using loose powder is the best way to get an accurate, low dose and avoid over dosing.

[kwatt]

Re: Clothes never gets rinsed properly

Powder.

Top performance, lowest margin of error and most flexible dosing options.

All the detergent manufacturers will put all the latest tricks and formulations into powder first before anything else, it’s been that way for a long, long time.

It is very true however that overloading will cause these sorts of symptoms and it is far from being uncommon. All too often we find people overload their machines even when they say that they do not. 😉

More info on it here: http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/fix- … chine.html

K.

[jaffacake2000]

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i dont overload, its capacity is 7kg, i just keep a gap of one fist or hand at the top, and once the water soaks the clothes its gets to half the size anyway

[Martin]

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jaffacake2000 wrote:I can see this as the sink fills up with water when the machine empties.

This fact undoubtedly is best part of your problem here. In that it indicates that the drain is severely restricted and is not allowing the drain water to escape quickly/sufficiently enough. Therefore you must first sort out why it is blocked before troubling yourself over which detergent to use.

It is essential the waste water is discharged from the machine as quickly as possible during the rinsing process, THE most important part of any wash cycle. Any restriction during that process will most often cause a ‘suds lock’ where the drain pump is blocked by suds unable to pump away grey soapy water properly.

[kwatt]

Re: Clothes never gets rinsed properly

The thing is…

The machine itself cannot actually make this happen.

So that logically only leaves the installation and what’s put into the machine that could be the possible cause of the issue.

K.

[bammec]

Re: Clothes never gets rinsed properly

I suggest putting a cupful of soda crystals and oxy powder and running through with the hottest cottons wash, being sure to enable a extra rinse cycle where possible.

Soda crystals are very good at dissolving grease and fat. Not only will they dissolve any that might be clogging up your machine, but also your pipes too. The oxy crystals are just a powder version of bleach, helping to sanitise the machine – these are optional, I always some amongst my stock of detergents.

While you’re about it, consider using soda crystals down your sink too. Out of interest, does your sink drain slowly, or has it become slower?

I’m completely against using liquid forms of detergent, unless I need to. I’ve read how it can clog up machines by sticking to the insides and can cause mould and odour issues within the machine, too.

Stick to powder or tablets that contain compacted powder. If you use powder on your whites, you should find they will seem whiter as standard powder contains bleaching agents – unless it’s powder specifically for colours, then it probably replaces the bleach with optical brighteners.

[kwatt]

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bammec wrote:I’m completely against using liquid forms of detergent, unless I need to. I’ve read how it can clog up machines by sticking to the insides and can cause mould and odour issues within the machine, too.

No, it’s constant use of liquids that do not contain bleach combined with constant low temperature washing. Other factors can affect it to a degree but, that’s the main cause.

This allows a build up of bacteria and general scum to be deposited on the tank and plastic tanks would appear to suffer from this to a far, far larger extent than metal tanks. Stainless tanks rarely have an issue in this regard although can still be affected in extreme cases.

If the build up is bad you can sometimes clear it with multiple maintenance washes as I said earlier or, you need to use the likes of Affresh which is designed specifically to target bacteriological residues, your suggested remedy is not and won’t be as effective.

Again though, even at that, if the machine is bad you may need to apply multiple treatments and any smell may get worse (as the layers are broken down) before it improves.

bammec wrote:Stick to powder or tablets that contain compacted powder. If you use powder on your whites, you should find they will seem whiter as standard powder contains bleaching agents – unless it’s powder specifically for colours, then it probably replaces the bleach with optical brighteners.

Yes, the difference between colour powders and liquids is that both contain no bleach and use optical brighteners to mimic that effect.

You essentially need to use two detergents at least for normal washes and one for delicates or woollens if required. Both basics are essential and used correctly you should not require a chemistry set in the kitchen cupboard.

For more see here:

http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/clea … gents.html

K.

[liberatordeluxe]

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Does your washing machine drain through a standpipe or under sink drainage? I would always suggest using a standpipe alone for a washing machine as the pumps pump out the water very fast and forcefully.

Lastly I do think modern detergents create too many suds even with the correct dosage. I live in hard water but there is no way I could use 130ml of Ariel Liquid for heavy soil which is recommended. I did once and had foam coming out the door. Needless to say I complained to Ariel and they gave me a voucher.

I use Sainsburys own brand which is actually a McBride product and find it very low sudsing so stick to that now. I use Simply powder tabs for whites and lights. I don’t why Ariel and Persil haven’t altered the dosage for out new high efficiency front loaders. The recommended amounts are excessive. They seem to have low suds detergents in America yet none that are truly low sudsing over here.

[liberatordeluxe]

Re: Clothes never gets rinsed properly

Just exactly how does liquid detergents stick to the insides of the workings of a washing machine? Its a liquid so in theory should be 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} dissolvable. Baffles me how a liquid could clog the workings of a machine up.

[iadom]

Re: Clothes never gets rinsed properly

liberatordeluxe wrote: Its a liquid so in theory should be 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} dissolvable.

Your theory is flawed, oil is a liquid but it’s not 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} dissolvable in water. 😉

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