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  • #252391
    grannyfixit
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    Are you suggesting that a built in one would not have an Aluminium fan in it then ?

    #252392
    Phidom
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    Are you saying you can’t use your AEG oven because of the aluminium fan? Does the oven have the facility for conventional heating as opposed to fan oven heating? If so you could have the fan blades removed and just use it in conventional oven mode.

    #252393
    grannyfixit
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    My AEG has 2 ovens
    Bottom one is fan assisted
    Top one is conventional
    Both are Enamel interior

    However cant use either of them because apparently theres an Aluminium chanell at the back which connects both ovens to the fan

    and the whole oven is encased in foil

    Its the presence of Aluminium which when its heated gives off a kind of radiation that affects the food

    Its hard to describe how it does that but sadly it does …………too many people think just because they have ditched Aluminium Saucepans they are safe

    I spent 2 yrs in a wheelchair 20 yrs ago was dreadfully ill with Aluminium poisoning and came so close to dying i am not prepared to do it again …….i am as a result severely allergic to the blasted metal and least contact with it causes nasty symptoms

    #252394
    don
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    grannyfixit wrote:Are you suggesting that a built in one would not have an Aluminium fan in it then ?

    Possibly not, I was just trying to give a few more options of suppliers who produce a higher spec machine where the fans may not be aluminium. Coupled with the fact it could replace the AEG in the housing. You could then sell the AEG and realise some capital return.


    Don

    #252395
    grannyfixit
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    Not likely to sell the AEG for much
    and its OK for other family members

    hence why i have always had the Sharp combi

    Still cant work out where the fan was if it ever had one because i sure could not see it and i can clearly see them on every other model i look at

    #252396
    Washman
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    Hi

    Even if you get a microwave without an aluminium fan the magnatron (the bit that radiates the microwaves )is encased aluminium.

    Mike

    #252397
    grannyfixit
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    So how come I never had any problem whatever from the 15yr old Sharp Combination Microwave/grill/oven
    that gave up the ghost last week

    Were the old ones made differently ?
    It certainly did not have a visible fan

    #252398
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    grannyfixit wrote:So how come I never had any problem whatever from the 15yr old Sharp Combination Microwave/grill/oven
    that gave up the ghost last week

    Sounds as if a medical opinion you need there, we can only tell you what we know about appliances.

    grannyfixit wrote:Were the old ones made differently ?

    Nope.

    grannyfixit wrote:It certainly did not have a visible fan

    Perhaps not visible, but it would almost certainly have had one. Put it this way, if it didn’t have one then it’s the only combi I’ve ever heard of that didn’t have one to drive the air or expel it.

    HTH

    K.

    #252399
    grannyfixit
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    So if it had to have a fan where would they have hidden it

    If I looked inside

    There was only the seamless stainless steel lining
    the element under the turntable
    the magnatron cover
    and the quartz element/grill at top

    There simply was no grill /perforated setion in front of a fan blade as there is in all the new ones


    I need to find the instruction manual for the model number

    Its not a matter of needing a medical opinion …….that i can assure you

    #252400
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    Okay then… so…

    How did the heat get distributed then? You either use convection, which is slow, radiated heat (infra-red pretty much) or you use air driven heat.

    That’s it.

    Convection – no fan.

    Anything else, involves a fan and, in a small cavity cooling is important so I’d guess that there was some form of cooling fan. Add to that you have, as you say,a sealed cavity then you most certainly need to expel hot air and that would need a fan of some sort.

    It’s gonna be REALLY hard to find an oven that doesn’t have aluminium in its construction… really hard indeed if not impossible.

    K.

    #252401
    Phidom
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    I still think the easiest option would be to get the Existing oven modified to replace the aluminium parts with a different material and replace the old combi with an ordinary microwave. As stated, the magnetron fins are aluminium but I don’t think they should get hot enough to give a problem (which is why they didn’t cause a problem on the old Sharp).

    #252402
    grannyfixit
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    OK

    Any ideas who would /could modify the existing oven

    #252403
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    I don’t know of anyone with that sort of ability outside factory, there’s been absolutely no call to modify an oven in that way that I’ve ever come across. In any event to do so would be extremely expensive as you’re looking at custom built components to do it.

    The only oven that you can almost guarantee won’t have much, if any, aluminium in the construction is an AGA and even they may use foil backed insulation, I don’t know as I’ve never worked on one.

    Even static ovens are getting rare these days and that’s about all I could suggest without going to silly money, so long as it had a sealed cavity, but even that’s rare as they usually have a vent on them somewhere which is often fabricated from aluminium.

    As for a microwave that’s aluminium free, I don’t think you’ve a snowball’s chance of finding one in all honesty. And, there’s not a prayer of modifying one so that it doesn’t contain aluminium, no-one’s going to take that on.

    K.

    #252404
    grannyfixit
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    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    No wonder people are far more concerned about getting Alzheimers than Cancer !!!

    The entire manufacturing world is riding for a fall

    #252405
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Combination microwave ovens >>>>>>>

    grannyfixit wrote:The entire manufacturing world is riding for a fall

    Only if a link can be proven which, from what I can see, is tenuous at best. However this is not the website for such a discussion and, I’d suggest, that you vent your frustration at the manufacturers to comply with your requirements or to lobby government to legislate the matter on health grounds as that is the only two ways that will bring about change.

    We can do nothing to help you with your problem avoiding aluminium.

    K.

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