FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

[Lloyd27]

Hi. Today I called an engineer out after my washing machine lost all power (totally dead!). I tried all the obvious tests before calling him (i.e. fuse, different socket, diff appliance in same socket. check wiring, etc etc). Anyway, I have now been told that the Module/Timer board has somehow blown.

My engineer suggested this forum in case any of you guys out there could offer any further advice. My main question is, can this be repaired or do I need to fork out some big bucks? The model is an integrated FAGOR Innova FU-3611IT approx 5yrs old.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I have a family of six, all with very smelly feet!!!!

CHEERS

[Phidom]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

The main board on your machine is about £120 retail which is still quite a bit cheaper than a new integrated machine but you do need to know what part of the board has blown to check for other faults such as short circuits in motor, heater, door switch etc.

[Lloyd27]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

Thought that might be the case! My engineer did say by just replacing the board will not fix the reason why it blew in the first place. Its looking more and more like having to scrap it and but new. Is there anything I should be looking at to indicate whats blown?

[cockney steve]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

If your engineer is paid enough! 😆 I’m sure he’ll be able to check it out!

otherwise, the “find an engineer” function on this site, should help you to locate a reliable,honest and competent person.

Phidom has outlined the parts you need to check,also the incoming mains supressor could have gone….you’ll need a multimeter and the ability to follow a disciplined and logical approach to this…….as a mistake could prove costly, you should consider carefully before stepping outside your “comfort zone”

[Lloyd27]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

Many thanks cockney steve.

My comfort zone is to do nothing, cos I know nothing when it comes to electrical faults!!! Best I leave it well alone. Probably end up buying new.

Many thanks for your help.

Can modules/timers be repaired? and if so does any one know who to contact?

[steviesparx]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

Well I thought I’d bought the only FAGOR FU-3611 IT, but obviously not…

…and developed the same fault too…

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..so traced the faulty resistor and replaced, but here’s an update….

…have replaced the SAME resistor about half a dozen times now, so much so I have fitted a connector block into which the resistor fits, so it’s easier to replace rather than solder each time…

… but it has developed other problems too, like not wanting to start when the button is pressed, despite being energised…

I noted the replacement control board was £100, but not sure that wouldn’t be good money after bad, so next month intend on buying a new ISE – I think I can forgo the advantages of integration and even drying, for a machine that will last more than 3 years !

[Lloyd27]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

Well well well!!! Someone else out there with a FAGOR!!! Nice to know I aint the only one!!

I’ve given up and fed up, so just going to fork out for a new machine (not a Fagor though!!!).

PS – Anyone want to but a used FAGOR in perfect working condition? Extremely quiet, you wouldn’t even know its on!!! lol!!!

[cockney steve]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

May I suggest again that you use the “find an engineer” function on this site (it’s on this page!) It would be worth it, to get a second opinion.

If you read the reply from “Phidom” carefully, you may infer that the machine is PROBABLY worth repairing.

Quick calc. ….cost of machine , divide by life you’ve had from it = cost per year of ownership.

cost of repair? as prpportion of ownership cost?…..I’ll guess that at £150 to repair,you’d probably only need 2 years service to get your money back.

Otherwise, you’ll have to commita LOT for a quality machine……..or buy throwaway crap, with all the attendant hassles….waiting on engineers/parts/arguing wether it’s under warranty or fair wear ‘n tear (chargeable) time out of service……going to launderette…..blowing fuses at inopportune times….maybe flooding the kitchen…….
lots of good reasons to NOT buy cheap….but that can’t guarantee you won’t have trouble with a dear one!.

just a bit concerned that your engineer did not give any indication as to what else could be wrong/cost/time to fix/professional opinion of viability of repairing it…..perhaps you should post in general appliance queries? wether to repair or what to replace it with? and ,importantly, your budget!

[Phidom]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

I was not making a value judgement on the Fagor as a specific make, simply comparing the likely cost of repair with the typical price of an integrated washing machine, which is normally quite a lot more than you pay for an ordinary washer.

[cockney steve]

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Phidom, yes I understand that, fully….in the same vein, a friend’s elderly mother has an integrated Electrolux washer-dryer which shed the belt and self-destructed the lower wiring-harness.

although it’s a scabby machine, it wasn’t cheap……..did the math, bought a new belt and mended the wiring…..even if she HAD got a professional in, the cost would still have been far cheaper per wash, than buying a new appliance and possibly repeating the 5-year writeoff. (repair was nearly 2 years ago…OK so far,-bearings/brushes next?? 😆 )

Apart from the economics of repair,- what IS your opinion of Fagor?-can’t say i’ve ever seen one! (there again, i’ve led a sheltered life 😆

[Phidom]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

I don’t have enough experience of these machines to judge. I know Baumatic dishwashers are made by Fagor but don’t know about the washing machines. I’ve not worked on many Baumatic washers though anyway.

[Lloyd27]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

Aaargh!! I don’t know what to do for the best?! I need a machine like yesterday before I wear down my Mum’s!! Ain’t in a position though to waste money.

I will take your advice Cockney Steve and try the ‘find an engineer’ function and also post in general enquiries.

Any further advice very very welcome!!!

CHEERS

[Katelyst]

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Hi All,

I’ve recently had my naff Hotpoint go wrong in a similar way and given themaths and the non-stop hassle I’ve had with it for the past 3 years I’m researching buying new. funnily enough I’d spotted a Fagor that seemed to do what I want and was at a good price, I guessed this might mean it wouldn’t stand the test of time and am thinking maybe I’m right given al said here?

have any of you changed your view of Fagor since this thread was started?

My particular issue is that I need the machine to be accessible for me, a blind person who can’t read the LCD/LED screens that so many machines now have… I would also prefer a large drum, A rated efficiencies all round and if possible a stainless steel finish! If it could be washer dryer even better… but I guess that is me wanting the moon on a stick huh? It seems even if I’m willing to shell out big cash I still can’t quite find thecombination I need/want….

Katelyst

[cockney steve]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

Firstly, I’d recommend you to discount a washer-dryer unless space is at an absolute premium.
Commercial launderettes have separate machines for a very good reason!
A dual-purpose machine HAS to compromise on a number of parameters and this means that it’s never going to be a star-performer in either function.
the compactness of cramming both lots of “works” into one cabinet means that they’re a nightmare to service and repair, circuits are more complex, due to the necessity for each function to “talk” to the other (you don’t want to dry stuff when the machine is still full of water or spinning, for example)

Think carefully about what you NEED from a machine. Sounds obvious, but “want ” and “need” are not the same!
Personally, I only ever seem to use 3 of the ~dozen programmes on the machine and have never ever used a rinse hold ,spin inhibit , crease-guard,or any other of these gimmicks.

Cottons, Synthetics and woollens covers my wash groups , the odd item outside the scope of those, is a candidate for a hand-wash,as it is not going to go into a machine on it’s own..

Have you looked at the ISE machines?

They don’t have a lot of slick advertising but give you good, no-nonsense functional machines which offer the best deal at their price-point.

I appreciate the problem you face if you have severely restricted vision. -It sounds like the rotary-knob type programmer is the one for you…..a bit if creativity with the point of a drill/a file/ a hacksaw, should provide a touch-indicator as to the setting.

I think that if you contact the people in Scotland (Don?) using the ISE or find a spare links, you’ll get better help and advice than I can give.

[Higher-water-level]

Re: FAGOR – Module and Timer board blown

Don is in Exeter. 😉

You mean Ken Watt of ISE appliances.

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