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  • #36332
    Kate XXXXXX
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    We must have had our Dyson (DC04 in lime and silver) for over 10 years. Before that we had a Miele thing known as The Custard Coloured Carpet Dragon, which must have done 12+ years service in a two-cat household before falling in a heap.

    I recently sucked up a needle with the poor Dyson and it sliced the brush bar in half! Oops! I sent for the new part, which now seems to come with a new floor plate as well, and got caught in their new computer system, so waited a fortnight for it… Wish I’d known when I ordered it that you guys also did Dyson bits! However, it got me thinking (again – always dangerous!)…

    Now I’ve never had any trouble with my Dyson that was not user induced. You don’t always see pins and needles on the carpet, and feeding them to ANY hoover is fraught with danger. In a household containing a mad sewing witch, a teenager, cats, guests, and customers, a good hoover is worth its weight in spools of thread at the very least. This one is pretty good, compared with others I’ve used in friends’ hice.

    But the typical vacuum cleaner (Dyson included) is hard to steer, and I like Mr Dyson’s new ball-wheeled steerable version. Many years ago we had one of his ball barrows, and it was wonderfully steerable. We’d have one again if they were still made (I shall nag him about this, you can be sure!).

    The question is, has anyone used one and what did they think? NOT that I’m thinking of replacing the DC04 until I really MUST, you understand, not after the last couple of months! I’d just like to know what people feel about it.

    #250614
    kladave
    Participant

    Re: General Dyson question…

    We have been waiting for over 5 weeks for those brush roll kits so you are lucky and we are still waiting 👿 As for the the ball the jury is still out.

    #250615
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: General Dyson question…

    TBH Kate, Meile and Sebo vacuums are better built, perform as well if not better and are not as overpriced and plasticky [sp] as Dyson’s Asian manufactured cleaners.

    They are also much nicer looking. 🙂

    Jim.

    #250616
    Kate XXXXXX
    Participant

    Re: General Dyson question…

    kladave wrote:We have been waiting for over 5 weeks for those brush roll kits so you are lucky and we are still waiting 👿 As for the the ball the jury is still out.

    They must have heard a leery-eyee-look in my tone when I rang them and asked ever so sweetly why the belts pack had arrived but not the plate/roller kit.

    To be honest, I’d have been happy with just a replacement old style roller. The new plate will prevent something I never do (try to munch on cables!), but not filter out needles and pins and the occasional strip of fabric.

    As for the ball, I’m in no hurry: it’s just another thing to contemplate when the time comes.

    #250617
    don
    Moderator

    Re: General Dyson question…

    iadom wrote:TBH Kate, Meile and Sebo vacuums are better built, perform as well if not better and are not as overpriced and plasticky [sp] as Dyson’s Asian manufactured cleaners.

    They are also much nicer looking. 🙂

    Jim.

    Sebo upright cleaners are excellent machines Kate http://www.sebo.co.uk/Pages/uprights.html, made in Germany so the build is as you would expect and they have a five year warranty so you know it`s going to do what it says on the label. I sold one of the new Dyson DC24 machines last week under duress from the customer I might add :rolls: I was dissapointed with the build quality , dust capacity and the access to the filter which is situated in the ball is horrible. Okay it does have the same 5 year warranty as the Sebo but that`s where the similarity ends IMO.

    Both are priced at around the £200 mark. I know which one I would have 😉 .

    As for Miele uprights they are just starting to produce there first ever upright cleaners which are due to the trade late June so I`m told. Price range £180-£280 again these will be a bagged cleaner.

    HTH

    Don

    #250618
    Kate XXXXXX
    Participant

    Re: General Dyson question…

    iadom wrote:TBH Kate, Meile and Sebo vacuums are better built, perform as well if not better and are not as overpriced and plasticky [sp] as Dyson’s Asian manufactured cleaners.

    Hm… I want bagless again, with permanent washable filters. These are features I like bout the Dyson. Not having needed to buy one in over 10 years, I don’t have much to compare with, but I did like my Miele cylinder when I had it. I just like the Dyson upright a lot better! But I’ll certainly look at these two when I DO need to buy a new one.

    I’d need to stand a new Dyson next to my present one to judge the plastickyness or otherwise of the two…:lol:

    iadom wrote:They are also much nicer looking. 🙂

    Jim.

    As with blokes, that aspect is optional… Function and performance rule! 😈

    #250619
    Kate XXXXXX
    Participant

    PS: Postie just came: second brush bar and plate have arrived! Will need to ring Dyson UK and get this sorted, but later…

    #250620
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: General Dyson question…

    Hi Kate,

    Trust me, I have tried many a Dyson over the years and I’ve not rated any of them bar the cylinder one which was okay, but nothing to rave about IMO.

    Got a Sebo, brilliant thing. Cleans brilliantly, is relatively quiet (not that I really care about that) is relatively cheap to run and I don’t feel like I’m being gassed every time I have to empty the thing.

    I think people think that not having bags saves money and hassles when, in reality I’ve never found that to be particularly true. I’ve also always found that, when you’re talking about a decent cleaner and not a hunk of Chinese junk, that bagged is way, way better performing.

    You’ll also struggle to get many, if any, of us in the trade to recommend a bagless cleaner.

    HTH

    K.

    #250621
    kladave
    Participant

    Re: General Dyson question…

    kwatt wrote:Hi Kate,

    Trust me, I have tried many a Dyson over the years and I’ve not rated any of them bar the cylinder one which was okay, but nothing to rave about IMO.

    Got a Sebo, brilliant thing. Cleans brilliantly, is relatively quiet (not that I really care about that) is relatively cheap to run and I don’t feel like I’m being gassed every time I have to empty the thing.

    I think people think that not having bags saves money and hassles when, in reality I’ve never found that to be particularly true. I’ve also always found that, when you’re talking about a decent cleaner and not a hunk of Chinese junk, that bagged is way, way better performing.

    You’ll also struggle to get many, if any, of us in the trade to recommend a bagless cleaner.
    HTH

    K.

    The folks out there can buy as many as they want……..more for me to repair.
    It is true that bagged machines are more reliable.

    #250622
    Kate XXXXXX
    Participant

    Re: General Dyson question…

    The trouble I found with the bagged cleaner was that I was replacing the bags almost as often as I used the thing, as the decline in levels of suck was both marked and rapid. Even with a new bag I found the second half of the living room (not quite 20 feet long) harder to clean than the first half. With the Dyson this doesn’t happen anything like as much, and as soon as the suction level goes down noticeably, I wash the filter… Maybe as often as every six months? I’ve never found emptying the thing a problem: I stand up wind of the bin, tip and tap it a few times, and that’s it done.

    As for mending it… Nope! Professional help not needed in 10+ years. It’s needed two new brush bars due to driver error: first one was a couple of years back when a long strip of fabric (about 2m long and 5-10cm wide – a sort of very long narrow wedge) got sucked up and jammed the belt, and friction melted the ends and welded them to the brush bit so it wouldn’t turn, and this latest one where I fed it a needle which cut the bar in half!). It’s also needed a few belts when it’s swallowed bits of paper and jammed. Other than that it’s coped with cats, kids, dogs, mud, builder’s demolishing a wall, spilled plaster dust, wodges and Wodges and WODGES of thread, fabric scraps, hair (mine is long and known to defeat hairbrushes), and seems to take it all with perfect equanimity. Alan changed the brush bar without a problem both times and I gave it a new hose myself after splitting that (err… I stretched it out tight, bent it round a sharp corner, and then put a hoof on it. I weighed over 15 stone in those days!).

    The Miele before it went through 3 sets of motor brushes in less time, didn’t have kids or builders to contend with, ate bags a a distressing rate, and things like the silly holder for the bags, the hinge and catch for the tool cover, and the ‘turbo’ head all failed. I wasn’t sewing anything like as much then either… I thought it good until I tried the Dyson.

    It might take a lot to make me do more than merely look at something with bags again.

    #250623
    madrat
    Participant

    Re: General Dyson question…

    I totaly agree, Dyson cant be beaten in my opinion. Our DC04 has been going strong for 8 years and has only needed new parts due to operator error. And those I can count on 1 hand.

    #250624
    cockney steve
    Participant

    Another Dyson fan, here! 01, 02 and 04…all chuckouts ‘cos people can’t be bothered to learn the basics to unblock them.

    From an engineer’s view , the’re crap!…built down to the wire, not a gram of surplus plastic anywhere, and, I suspect, deliberately -so in order to generate parts-sales.
    02 handle-bend anyone? (amazing how tou can sleeve with aluminium(pirated from a spare wand) and araldite.

    Sole plate? cyclone-entry?…but, the bean-counters are happy,
    There are no bag-costs, the suction doesn’t die like a bag does,and they weigh about half of a hoover senior 652….A die-cast “industrial ” model must surely appear, now the market’s saturated….that SHOULD be a good machine,IF it’s developed with integrity, without weak-spots and exhorbitant parts costs.
    All personal opinion, of course!

    #250625
    WhirlpoolQueen
    Participant

    New Dyson Fan

    I must admit I am very impressed with our new compact vac, a Dyson DC024 All Floor. (gift from Mr. WQ)- I was beginning to struggle a little with our Henry now I am getting older & one’s hips & back is starting to wear. Joys of getting old !!! 😥

    My only gripe is the washing of the filters. Bit of a faff to get the ball filter out & that dreadful combi-brush crevice tool irritates.

    Mr. WQ has put Henry in the garage & consigned him to be used to clean the car, but at least he is still smiling. (Henry that is…….Mr. WQ never smiles!) Hmmmmmm, maybe I should consign him to the garage as well?

    WQ

    #250626
    cockney steve
    Participant

    Re: General Dyson question…

    perhaps Mr. Henry ia smiling because his wand gets plenty of suction.

    Is Mr. WQ lacking some “care and attention”? 😈

    #250627
    WhirlpoolQueen
    Participant

    Re: General Dyson question…

    cockney steve wrote:perhaps Mr. Henry ia smiling because his wand gets plenty of suction.

    Is Mr. WQ lacking some “care and attention”? 😈

    Oh you saucebox 😀
    That’s for me to know & you not to find out! LOL!

    WQ

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