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Are there any distinguishing codes that are used on their info labels that dictate which factory the machine has come out of??
I know theres obviously the “made in” that helps, but all too often its now “eu” which only tells you its not german.
this is more geeky interst than anything else, but also wondered what the actual names of the various factories they part or wholly own are, like for instance the balay plants in spain
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Generally speaking they will put made in germany if it is built in germany, made in eu if built in oone of their other factories more likely spain
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just found this without even looking for it…
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ge&pid=133Re: Identifying where a Bosch has come from…
So to get things back on topic, am I correct in assuming all the “tactical” bosh washing m/c’s are made in Spain ?
Allan
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Yes i believe so, but the quality still isnt too bad, it is a repairable machine and of all the ones i have sold, only had one that was troublesome and i replaced it. At least its made in Europe.
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Like Kellogg’s I think you can be assured that if it says Bosch on the box then it’s Bosch in the box, no matter where it’s made. Over the years they’ve spread around a bit and produce white goods in Brazil, China, Germany, Greece, Mexico, Peru, Poland, Russia, Thailand, Turkey and USA.
Bosch continue to produce a good product overall from any of their factories and assembly plants. But like all current white goods they too have sacrificed quality for quantity and subscribe very much to the modern day manufacturing ideology of ‘built to dump’. Their design and production engineers are instructed to make a saleable product but with a limited life span thus ensuring endless consumer demand for more of the same.
These days if it says on the label ‘Built in Germany’ in reality it is just the same as the ones they shell out in Turkey and with all the delight that may bring the lucky owner.
They used to build good products in Germany and if you still hold that belief then who am I to dissuade you? The facts however don’t bear up to further scrutiny on anything white goods anyway. A German built AEG Lavamat likewise years ago was built to last, these days it’s a cheap Italian re-badged tin of junk, built to dump. Only Miele holds out to this day, they are still a privately owned company, but their days are numbered as they lay wide open to foreign takeover I shouldn’t wonder.
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Having worked for BSH in the Zaragoza plant some are washers, although when you approach the site you’ll need to look for the buildings with the big blue name of Balay written on almost everything except the small name plate at the front gate.
You also get bottles of red and white wine served with lunch. 😆
Most of the washers sold in the EU come out of Poland though.
As Martin states we cannot get to upset about the products, take Haier, if all the repairers who slagged them off stopped repairing Haier products I reckon a good 70{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of your calls would be dropped, including all the traditional badged products.
There is a new fridge out, US style made by Haier and bought and sold by at last count 8 major brands.
As for old appliances, yes they lasted, but the dumps still got filled, just with spares, I bet some appliances went through more waste having spares replaced than if you dumped the whole appliance, we regularly would change bearings/tubs and back plates on appliances several times through there life time, not to mention the reconditioned appliances.
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i heard the german built ones have torx screws
anf the one from spain are star screws ..
never really checked this out though .??
ally
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No its a myth, Torx heads are on both Bosch and Balay products assembled in Spain.
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All pointless, immature, argumentative posts edited or removed. 👿
Please stop behaving like a bunch of children. :rolls:
You can use several other mediums, the PM system, e-mail etc if you want to behave in such a stupid way but please keep the forums for sensible, reasoned comment and discussion, not for petty point scoring or being downright rude.
Its new year on Saturday, hows about one or two of you making a resolution to GROW UP.
Jim..
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ehhhh sorry mate
only mentioned torx screws … lol
as jim says all seems to be getting a bit playground-ish …
ally
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no its just more of a case to be more clued up when im in the shop, have had a couple of customers come in this week with various “assertions” the sheds have given them
such as “this beko fridge freezer comes out of the bosch plant in turkey…”
and im thinking um sorta…
and “ive been told by my engineer to only buy a german made bosch as some are made in turkey and spain, but i dont want any complicated electronics”
shes in her 80s and does one wash a week. we agreed the logixx were prolly a bit overkill just to have the made in germany tag, apart from that she wanted to spend under £400… so draw your own conclusions.
washer wise, i was under impression gernerally avantixx w/d was wuxi, tacticals were polish or wuxi, and classixx, avantixx and some exxcels were balay… is this about right?
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gandh1 wrote:“ive been told by my engineer to only buy a german made bosch as some are made in turkey and spain, but i dont want any complicated electronics”
shes in her 80s and does one wash a week. we agreed the logixx were prolly a bit overkill just to have the made in germany tag, apart from that she wanted to spend under £400…
😕 How did one of my customers get all the way up there and end up in your shop? 😆
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I called to a client, very posh arrogant type who only bought the very best, I called to his T/D not heating after a few weeks.
His Bosch T/D had the vent hose crushed and the little red button on the rear had popped out.
Yes it was a Crosslee T/D. 😆
Exactly the same appliance as the White Knight that the gentlemen would never entertain purchasing.
Didn’t like to inform him of his obvious mistake.
Just because an appliance comes from Germany does not make it better, the same design criteria applies in all the plants all around the world, many back room staff are from other countries, BSH has a major graduate program allowing staff to move world wide.
Some people seem to be lacking some basic knowledge of the world we live in.
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lee8 wrote:Just because an appliance comes from Germany does not make it better, the same design criteria applies in all the plants all around the world, many back room staff are from other countries, BSH has a major graduate program allowing staff to move world wide.
Some people seem to be lacking some basic knowledge of the world we live in.
Spot on! :tup:
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