ISE10 1606W blown board

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  • #98936
    Hektor
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    Ten year old ISE10 (1606W). Suddenly lost all power, no lights, nothing. I’ve opened it up and there is blackening on the board around a triac and some resisters. I’m assuming this is the issue. I have checked that power is reaching the switch and the switch is functioning.
    I’m hoping someone can advise whether it’s worth my while trying to fix or source a new board, or if it’s just likely to happen again so cut my losses and shell out for a new machine.
    I tried attaching screenshots but unfortunately it looks like the forum has no remaining storage.

    #474359
    electrofix
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    to add pics, host on another site like google pics, then post a public link

    black dust around high voltage components is common and does not mean thats a problem

    Dave

    #474360
    Hektor
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    Thank you for the reply and the photo hint. Hopefully these are accessible https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pat3HS8iykoXYUTk7
    There is a little melting of solder with possible damage to the circuitry. Is it still worth looking at other causes or is this likely to be the issue?

    #474361
    Hektor
    Participant

    It’s around TC2, R9, RD5, RD11.

    #474362
    tubafan
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    Think I’d be checking TC2 in the first instance. Has one of the tracks from its centre pin been blown as I can’t be 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} from the photo?

    #474363
    Hektor
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    Looking closer, yes it appears so – new photos Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos , Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos

    #474364
    Hektor
    Participant

    Having checked with a multimeter I believe the track from the centre pin of the triac to the variable resistor behind, and from the same VR pin to RD5 (behind RD11) are blown. Not sure my soldering skills are that accurate – is joining those with cable something that could be attempted by someone with suitable skills?

    #474365
    electrofix
    Moderator

    yes thats gone bang

    other board will have a dose of copper spray so it may mean they are dead

    not sure what that traic feeds, normally i would have said motor but they often fit a heatsink for the motor and the tracks look a bit small. trace connections possibly the door lock

    Dave

    #474366
    Hektor
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    I see that I can get a new board here for £246 235261 Washing Machine Control Unit (ukwhitegoods.co.uk)
    Question now is, if I fit a new board is this likely to be a one off or is there another cause which will just result in it blowing again – from past experience?

    #474367
    electrofix
    Moderator

    you need to find out why before you jump in

    trace the tracks from the traic and try and find out what it contols, i doubt the board has caused this its just a casualty

    Dave

    #474368
    Hektor
    Participant

    I have a diagram and have photo’d the section of the board front and rear (which I’ve flipped so it corresponds) but I’m struggling to figure it out.
    Circuit diagram Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
    Front of board Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
    Rear of board (flipped vertically) Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos

    #474369
    electrofix
    Moderator

    looks like a pump problem as triac feeds out on 3rd term from top

    check the pump and its wiring for damage

    Dave

    #474370
    tubafan
    Participant

    Does look like that triac powers the pump. As Dave says, I’d be looking at the pump and it’s wiring now and trying to work out why the circuit has been overloaded enough to blow that track. I’d also take a look at the front PCB to see if there’s any obvious damage from the ‘explosion’ event. If not then it could all be repairable. Certainly worth a go if you feel your skills are up to it.

    #474371
    Hektor
    Participant

    Difficult to get to the pump and not much to see, but looks fine externally once disconnected
    Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
    Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
    Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
    Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
    Front PCB looks blackened but otherwise intact Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
    If I were to try to repair the PCB, what’s the best way – solder a length of wire across the contacts to bridge where the track is blown? Doesn’t seem like there’s anything to lose 🙂

    #474372
    tubafan
    Participant

    You’ll need some insulated wire to fix the tracks. De-solder the component legs and then wrap a stripped end of the wire around each leg to make a wire track before re-soldering. Before that I’d check that the triac isn’t short circuited and also the pump windings (assume the pump does spin and isn’t jammed?). The back of the other board will also need to be cleaned.
    It is a concern that the machine is totally dead as this could indicate a fault with the front board, but it’d certainly have a go at fixing it.

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