ISE10 1606W blown board

[electrofix]

that pump look very rusty so the windings are suspect

Dave

[Hektor]

Ok so I’ve given it my best shot, slightly embarrassed by my amateur soldering. Turned the machine on and the pump turned continuously, which is more than previous, but no LEDs lighting up. I think Tubafan’s right about the front circuit. I’m not convinced the triac is right either.
Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
Before that I did check the pump contacts again and they were blackened, so I think Dave might be right about the pump.
Although the machine is 10 yrs old I hate to check it as the majority of the machine is probably fine and the wife likes it. So it’s now a choice between (a) Buy a new board for £246 and a pump for £30 and see if I can get another 5 years out of the beast. (1) Throw in the towel and invest in a new Bosch or similar which seem to have great reviews online. Any thoughts?

[electrofix]

also by the looks of it the pump has been leaked on which is probably why its gone

also have you seen this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASKO-ISE-Gorenje-washing-machine-control-board1606w/322634942052?hash=item4b1e8a8664:g:p1QAAOSw1WJZIHRU

i know he wants £280 for it but make him an offer as there are not many of these machines about so he is not going to sell it soon

also get him to check compatibility then you have a come back if it will not fit your model

Dave

[Hektor]

Thanks, Dave, but that doesn’t look the same to me though, even though it says 1606W.
I’m still thinking of fixing up though. I was quite worried about the comments about leakage but I think I’ve traced it to the soap dispenser hose Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos. I think I think I’ll just mastic it rather than pay the £17 for the replacement, which will hopefully sort any leakage. I’ll replace the pump Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos with D422192 Askoll Drain Washing Machine Dishwasher Drain Pump (ukwhitegoods.co.uk) and the board of course ISE Washing Machine Electronic Control Modules (ukwhitegoods.co.uk).
My main concerns are whether the frequency converter module might be an issue 271991 Washing Machine Frequency Converter Module (ukwhitegoods.co.uk) as I don’t want to shell out for that was well, and whether I need to replace or clean the sump hose – not sure what the clear tube connected to it is but it looks quite scaled up Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos. I think all the scaling on the outside of the sump is from the soap dispenser leakage, at least I hope so.

[electrofix]

clear tube will probably be the pressure bell

if you look to the top of it there will be a thin tube coming off the top of it going to a switch further up. its job is to trap air and feed it to the switch. the air pressure is proportional to water height and allows the machine to measure water load

you could also look at makeing a small cover over the pump to deflect any water away from the connections only has to be like a plastic roof so dont use a plastic bag or anything like that. Needs to allow pump to get rid of any heat

as for the hose we use
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/debor-metal-and-rubber-adhesive

Dave

[Hektor]

Great, many thanks. Excellent idea about the pump roof. The only question now is the pump. My pump – Akso Hanning EW DPS 25-047 30W – has parallel flat pins which connects to a single connector.
Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
Photo in ISE10 1606W – Google Photos
Looking on the site for ISE pumps ISE Washing Machine Drain Pumps (ukwhitegoods.co.uk) I can see a universal one which is 40W but otherwise looks very similar Universal 40 Watt Askoll Drain Washing Machine Dishwasher Drain Pump (ukwhitegoods.co.uk), except that it has power connector pins which are perpendicular, so wouldn’t fit my single connector for two parallel pins. There’s an ISE pump but hard to make out whether it’s suitable 2801102100 ISE Washing Machine Drain Pump (ukwhitegoods.co.uk). Do you know where I can get suitable connectors if I were to go with the universal pump?

[Hektor]

Looking again I guess some female spade connectors like these would do the job RS PRO Red Insulated Terminal, 6.3 x 0.8mm Tab Size, 0.5mm² to 1.5mm² | RS Components (rs-online.com)

[electrofix]

places like halfords also have them

dave

[Hektor]

Given that my pump is a 30W model will the 40W generic replacement be OK or more likely to burn out the board?

[electrofix]

will be fine 10w will not be a problem

Dave

[Hektor]

Order placed for control unit, pump and hose adhesive. Many thanks for your help. The level of support and knowledge on this forum has been fantastic. I’ll let you know how I get on.

[farside28]

I have an ISE 1606W which recently suffered a thermistor failure (caused a lot of erratic behaviour). Anyway, the failure was almost certainly caused by water damage, leaking from the soap dispenser hose and running to the bottom of the drum where the thermistor is located (its on a white plastic holder above the motor). It might be worth checking the condition of the thermistor, and that it is within spec (6.1- 3.8 k ohm).

And of course make sure the soap dispenser hose is well cleaned and sealed.

The bottom hose also looks like it leaked and is possibly the reason for pump failure, so it might be worth removing, cleaning and sealing too (and the vacuum tube while you’re at it). Be warned though, the stainless steel clip holding the bottom hose is tight and difficult to refit. It is possible to buy replacement clips and the fitting tool on ebay, these are often used for rubber fittings and hoses on cars.

[Hektor]

Parts received on Friday, fitted that day – new pump, new main circuit board, new switch – and the machine came to life. My wife has caught up with a number of loads and all good so far.
I sealed the soap dispenser up well as it had definitely been leaking from there. Not sure about the sump hose, I’ll keep an eye on that I think. I’m loathed to take it off if I don’t need it as it looks tricky as you say and I’m bound to break something.
Thanks for the hint about the thermistor, farside, I’ll get around to checking that.
I don’t want to speak too soon but for now we’re back to having a working machine without having to send our well-loved ISE to landfill. Many thanks for the help from everyone on the forum, the support has really been fantastic. Oscar

[Hektor]

Just one issue with the machine – the delay start doesn’t seem to work. Instead of adding an hour with each press, pressing it adds 10 minutes to the cycle and pressing again removes the extra 10 mins – so just toggles that extra 10 mins. Not sure whether this is a fault with the board or something that can be programmed. I found on one post that holding the Start/Stop button while turning on at the power button does a factory reset so have tried that but made no difference.
Any ideas? I know there are a number of programming options for number of spins etc. but they seem to have gone from the web, along with the ISE web site. Perhaps one of these would help? I know that kwatt was going to do a cheat sheet at one point (a decade ago!) ISE 10 Keeps showing an old wash cycle ??!! – UK Whitegoods Domestic Appliance Help And Support Forums

[electrofix]

we need to ask him

[USER=”2″]kwatt[/USER]

any ideas ?

Dave

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