Miele W828 rinse light flashing.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Hah! You thought you were going to a nice easy brush job!
No such luck.
To start with, customer explained that she had heard a tremendous noise ( think it was on spin at the time ) and had rushed out to utility to turn it off.
I checked for spider movement / bearings and could find none.
I then pulled off the plastic brush / tacho / toc ring / holder assy and found brushes to be very long and no sign of damage or sticking. Cleaned it all and replaced. Symptom still there.
Went for main board. All connections good. Checked with diagram and got believable readings on all motor connections including volts out from tacho.
Took board home for a dekko and found pcb fuse (brown plastic cylindrical type) o/c. Bingo! thought I.
6.3A of this type not available anywhere so parallelled up 2 x 3.15A. and returned.
Switched to spin. Drum began turning and I prepared to cash in 😀 .
Sadly, it turned for about 3 secs and then stopped and the rinse light flashed again 🙁 .
Fuse had not blown. Connections all tight and readings good. Tried repeatedly with same result. Except one time it turned about four spells of three seconds before stopping. 😕

Now I’m off camping for a couple of weeks and the customer is prepared to wait and let me have another go when I get back. (Relative next door will cope with extra washing.) Certainly would be a shame to dump it; only about 12 years old and not heavily used.
Any ideas would be welcomed.
Mike.

[Seamy]

Re: Miele W828 rinse light flashing.

Sounds like tacho problem, the crash she heard may have been it going direct into full spin directly instead of ramping up slowly. Check for crack in magnet.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Miele W828 rinse light flashing.

(Doh!) Cheers for that. Indeed it did seem to start up a little too quickly when it did come on. Presumably, electronics are not expecting such quick movement at that stage and recognise there’s a problem. Maybe it was already spinning fast when initial crack occurred to magnet and electronics were not able to effect a halt quickly enough. Will return to it in 2/3 weeks’ time. Meanwhile, do Miele do magnet as spare or is it complete motor only ?
Mike.

[don]

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Hi Mike

Magnet is available on it’s own. Part number 4879581.

Don

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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Great news. Thanks Don. Perhaps the availability of the part is a sort of confirmation of the likelihood of this happening.
Mike.

[admin]

Re: Miele W828 rinse light flashing.

how funny….. ❗
only fixed a miele w844 yesteday in my work shop that come in as a trade in,owner called someone else to machine that told him to scrap it,

took a look at it ,found same as you brushes where ok,but lights flashing ,done a search on here and up come the prob,

i changed the motor relay on pcb (sk1), was stuck.replaced fuse like you have, bingo its on its 3rd wash today and all is well. 😀
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd25 … yBoard.jpg

canufixit

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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Ah! OK so now this means I do have to check the relays after all, which is what I had intended to do before the magnet was suggested. Hmm. Shall I do it tomorrow or carry on with my packing and do it when I get back? Have to see what time is left when I’ve done packing.
“sk1”, Is that 2k1? No, just looked, there’s nothing there. 6k1 I take it? Did you find a 6.3A fuse like the original?
Compliments on the pic!
Mike.

[admin]

Re: Miele W828 rinse light flashing.

leavemetogetonwithit wrote:Ah! OK so now this means I do have to check the relays after all, which is what I had intended to do before the magnet was suggested. Hmm. Shall I do it tomorrow or carry on with my packing and do it when I get back? Have to see what time is left when I’ve done packing.
“sk1”, Is that 2k1? No, just looked, there’s nothing there. 6k1 I take it? Did you find a 6.3A fuse like the original?
Compliments on the pic!
Mike.

mike
i did not find the original fuse..put in some fuse wire 8amp
found an old relay off a scrap pcb,

pic not mine 😳 stolen off some ones blog on prob that thay had with his machine,found when googled.. 😀

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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Alles klar!
Mike.

[admin]

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viewtopic.php?f=34&t=34677&p=189087&hilit=miele+w844#p189087

topic i used to help me….also man on ebay can fix the boards
for not a lot of money,take a look

canufixit

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Miele W828 rinse light flashing.

Yep! I’ve just been reading it here! http://www.rangemaster-repairs.co.uk/forumsphpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=34677
Mike.
Edit: Which is kind of bizarre 😕

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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Checked relay 6k1 or whatever it was called, and sure enough got a reading indicating a stuck contact on one side just like all the “amateurs” were finding on theirs. Cut the top off to have a look and it certainly had had a mini-inferno in there! So this is apparently a common fault and potentially a nice little earner! Just wish I had half a dozen more like it to do. (After that, I might get a bit bored with it. 😆 )
The last post on the blog I was reading reckoned that the suspas on his had gone weak and were the underlying factor in causing the initial fault. I find that difficult to believe as the only problems I’ve ever found with suspas were due to water ingress rusting them out or supports breaking. Still, will check them over when I return. Expect conclusion in about 3 weeks. 😀
Mike.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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leavemetogetonwithit wrote:Yep! I’ve just been reading it here! http://www.rangemaster-repairs.co.uk/forumsphpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=34677
Mike.
Edit: Which is kind of bizarre 😕

Who else knew that UKW also went by the name of rangemaster-repairs.co.uk ?

[electrofix]

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Canufixit wrote

i did not find the original fuse..put in some fuse wire 8amp

replacing an enclosed fuse with a piece of wire is not a good idea
its the same as putting a piece of wire across the fuse in a plugtop

first of all if the fuse blows you will have molten copper over every component around
second an enclosed fuse blows quicker because it is not cooled by the surrounding air
third to make things worse you put a higher value than the original

these fuses are easily available I think I got mine from Farnell so there is no excuse

Dave

[admin]

Re: Miele W828 rinse light flashing.

electrofix wrote:Canufixit wrote

i did not find the original fuse..put in some fuse wire 8amp

replacing an enclosed fuse with a piece of wire is not a good idea
its the same as putting a piece of wire across the fuse in a plugtop

first of all if the fuse blows you will have molten copper over every component around
second an enclosed fuse blows quicker because it is not cooled by the surrounding air
third to make things worse you put a higher value than the original

these fuses are easily available I think I got mine from Farnell so there is no excuse

Dave

dave
my fix is temp….its not staying like that it was to test
that it worked again….so fuse will be found before i move it on.
i will take a look for one on farnell

all the best

canufixit

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