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  • #96951
    Kristhejoiner
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    Hi there let, would you be able to recommend us a washing machine and potentially a condenser dryer.

    Let me explain our current set up

    Washer 9kg indesit innex 6 years old now making loud noise on spin i suppect bearings gone. We have a 4 appliance plan with D&G and engineer coming out on monday 6th. Im hoping he will right it off due to sealed drum.

    If he writes it off then hopefully insurance will replace like for like.

    Heres our problem… not sure if we would want to have same washer machine again. But its what to buy next time??

    Ive been looking and with a budget about £300 hotpoint, zanussi and beko are the 3 that pop up often on the web

    (Im ruling out hoover group due to bad experience with our dryer been repaired 6 times in 7 years with same cutting fuseboard electric out heater element in back changed 5 times now
    D&G not offering us a replacement dryer, i do wonder whats the point of insurance. next time its breaks down which will be soon we will buy a new one hopefully of the same brand as the new washer we decide on)


    Anyway back on topic

    Hotpoint
    Ive always liked hotpoint we used to have the full graphite ultima set of appliances. Washer and dryer was good but the frost free ff was total garbage. I am concerned about the bad press with fires tho so holding back slightly which is shame cos i like the nm10 944 which looks lovely and has some good cycles that take full 9kg load.

    Zanussi
    Next that pops up is zanussi lindo300. I like the look of the aquafall idea showering from above. Ive heard zanussi is reliable. But reviews complain about cycle times being long.

    Beko
    Lastly is beko.. with the aquatec which to me seems a copy of zanussi also has steam which looks a copy of the hotpoint. But cant say ive heard good things about beko reliability with inlaws calling the the skoda of the appliance world (i assume when skodas was rubbish lol) also cant seem to find out cycle lenghs.


    Basically in a nutshell want a 9/10kg washer thats reliable with decent 40 cotton and 60 cotton cycle lengths. (We dont believe in 30 washes and quick washes) for about 300quid.
    Thanks in advance

    #465567
    don
    Moderator

    Firstly I would not go with a 9 or 10 kg machine as the bearings are not upgraded to take the extra weight etc. I would go with the Beko first as the machines are well made for the price, spares are readily available, and at a reasonable cost and are easy to work on compared to others.

    Hotpoint will always feature highly in most guides due to the volume market they command, again spares are readily available and at a reasonable cost.

    Zanussi are mainly supplied through the John Lewis partnership, while the products are fine the spares are not as available and are more costly. That said the build on them is better than the other two.

    As for the tumble dryer vented is better than condenser as a machine but will need to have a hose attached for steam to escape. White Knight is still the preferred brand. In Condenser the Beko is worth a look at as is the Zanussi. Hotpoint with their recall issues and modifications just don’t seem to cut it anymore.

    Don

    #465568
    Kristhejoiner
    Participant

    Hi don thankyou for your reply.
    when i said matching brands its not a must. I have been looking at the beko 9kg condenser dryer thats on sale at currys for £270 looks good with the light and reversible door. I have also been looking at the hotpoint 9kg ultima s-line at £310.
    i think at regards dryers its only ever been hotpoint or beko. Not even considering hoover. End of the day a dryer is a dryer. Just want itvsimple and no fancy gadgets.

    The washing machine is a similar principle. Easy to use. Probably only ever use cotton 40/60 wash. We tend to 2/3 to 3/4 fill the washer. A crammed full washer wont clean at best potential.
    the steam and waterfall tech isnt a must. Just want an easy to use, reliable washer that will let you fill it and washvon most settings (i was almost sold on samsung eco bubble until i saw all the other programs only let you wash about 4kg. The idea of a 9kg washer is to be able to wash 7/8/9kg on most settings)
    ive noticed the hotpoint nm10 944 has quite a few programs and allow 9kg on them also the programs times are spot on.
    so from a wash load setting and wash duration time point of view the hotpoint has it in the bag. Whats holding me back is all this recall and bad press.

    As terms of reliability is there a difference between hotpoint beko and zanussi.

    Do you recommend i rule out zanussi due to parts? Cost of repairs wouldnt be a problem if i continue paying insurance

    #465569
    don
    Moderator

    If you are going for the Hotpoint 10kg I would definitely continue with the insurance policy!

    As for the dryer this Beko would be a good match for the Hotpoint washer. If Hotpoint is a must then this one is the largest they produce.

    Don

    #465570
    Kristhejoiner
    Participant

    Its definitely a toss of the coin between the hotpoint and beko dryers you have posted above. The hotpoint fire issue is pushing me towards the beko dryer.

    As regards washing machine im lost. Proper torn as were to begin. The hotpoint isnt a must, it just seems logical with the programming weights and wash durations.
    I very much like the beko aquatech and the zanussi lindo300 aquafall. I think im only considering zanussi becase they have a 10kg one on ao.com for £300. Normally they quite abit more money. End of the day ill probably have to wait to see if they write the current washer off and what they might offer in replacement they might only offer indesit/hotpoint in which way thats what will be happening.

    Regards dryer i wont try to claim on insurance when it next breaks down cos after 6 times i have no faith in it. And they have refused to replace it they seem happy to just keep sending engineer every year to put new heater on it. Well i dont want it anymore so when it breaks it will be a new one. And ill have to decide whether to insure it or not.

    #465571
    don
    Moderator

    Insurance companies tend to have preferred retailers and / or manufacturers. In some instances they may settle on a figure with you so you can purchase your own choice of machine.

    don

    #465572
    Kristhejoiner
    Participant

    I will let you know what happens when engineer comes out on monday 6th. He might change the whole drum. Ive read that sometimes they dont do that because sealed drums are about £150 plus labour but they might assume that D&G will be willing to pay for that bill. They keep doing that with the hoover dryer.
    i dont need a new washer as such it does do a good job and been reliable for 6 years from new. I just read somewhere that when bearings go on a sealed drum they tend to write it off so im trying to do my research in advance so if they do write it off im not doing as borris johnson calls it dither and delay. I can say i want this particular washer as a replacement. And i can get done asap

    #465573
    electrofix
    Moderator

    not a fan of the modern Hotpoint tumble dryer. The back bearing in my opinion is still not up to the job plus there have been some rumours of modified dryers still having fire problems but I cant confirm that. If whirlpool who took over Hotpoint are using their own designs then they might be more reliable but only some of them seem to be

    what you have to remember is your in budget territory and manufacturers cut corners to be able to supply at a price. If you want quality you need Miele you just have to look at the reviews to confirm this. I still supply Bosch machines when higher usage is needed, even these are not a well built as they used to be but have had dryers last 9 years in heavy use situations albeit needing servicing and a belt or 2 during its life

    Dave

    #465574
    Kristhejoiner
    Participant

    I think if they offer replacement washer weve decided on hotpoint activecare nm10 944 ww 9kg. It seems easy to use and wash programs decent and similar to our indesit.

    probably limp the dryer on until it breaks the the beko 9kg with interior light is strong favourite or the hotpoint ultima s-line

    #465575
    Kristhejoiner
    Participant

    Happy new year.

    Question about brands.
    what is the most reliable brand in the lower budget market? If we replace the 9kg washer for another 9kg what is better than hotpoint?
    is it worth paying extra to upgrade to bosch or Samsung.
    ive ruled out the zanussi lindo300 ive watched a youtube video of someone operating the programs seems a right farce and the 40 cotton was 4 hours. Im looking more 2 hours.
    Beko for the condenser i think

    #465576
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Samsung can be more like a nightmare rather than an upgrade

    look at bosch WAN series. they don’t seem too bad but all machines are being built to a price these days

    Dave

    #465577
    Kristhejoiner
    Participant

    Ive spent a couple of hours looking at the beko 9kg range. Really nice appliances
    £360 for top range aquatech

    Would you say they better than hotpoint?

    #465578
    don
    Moderator

    With the current goings on I would say the Beko is a better bet.

    Don

    #465579
    Kristhejoiner
    Participant

    Good evening. Update for you.

    The engineer bern out and replaced the drum which im surprised about because from my research i was under the impression they dont tend to replace drums and write it off.
    He said that they recondition the drums so im kind of happy that theyve done their bit to recycle but also gutted ive not had a new machine.

    Thanks for all your help

    #465580
    electrofix
    Moderator

    well am sceptical about that. If its a sealed drum it would have to be cut open and then would have to be re sealed with a high frequency welder. The bearings and spider would have to be replaced if damaged but are not available to anyone as a spare

    so I think he may well have been telling large fibs unless the drum he has now fitted is not sealed

    Dave

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