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Re: New way to replace Bosch brushes.
Phidom wrote:Will have to try the ratchet spanner. The 1/4″ drive socket and ratchet handle are tight against the cabinet back by the time the 2″ long screws are out.
If the machine is tilted fwd , the drum pushes fwd as well and that should give enough room for the ratchet and socket even once the screws are out……although i guess it depends on the size of the ratchet itself 😕
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Wait til you see the WAA with torx screws holding the motor on and the small back panel :rolls:
Re: New way to replace Bosch brushes.
Martin wrote:
leavemetogetonwithit wrote:
and let us know if this is how you do it. 😆This is how Penguin45 does it.:wink:
This is how Joe Public does it. 😆
well, you can see in all its glory how bad a repair guy he is
the awfull clicking as the drum starts to turn, cos the brushes are in the wrong way, good job he stopped filming before it blew up!a little knowledge is definately dangerous
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Its close to the way i do it, lol…..what i do is stand on my head so its not the machine thats upside down its me! lol. obviously im joking.
Might be worth a “uplift” for this one hey iadom? lol.
😆Re: New way to replace Bosch brushes.
I’m doing lots from the front now – especially the integrated stuff. Front panel off and the rear of the motor is easily accessible. Fiddly to start with, but as is the case with lots of jobs in this trade, practice quickens the pace.
ATEOTD, there’s always the other way to fall back on. Tilting the machine sideways is the easiest method, and the use of a 10mm ratchet spanner as available in B&Q for a few quid, motor removal is straightforward as the socket ratchet doesn’t get in the way.
I’ve also found that the Qualtex brushes spark much less than the Electrue ones, although I’ve not compared them side by side.Steve.
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That’s the way I do them Steve, if the room layout lends it’s self to tilt the machine to the side then this is my prefered method for motor removal along with a ratchet spanner.
silverbroom.
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Quite concerned, penguin 45.
am i right in thinking you have to much work, and are therfore posting on you tube, a do it yourself guide, for the public, on how to repair appliances.
i do believe that giving people general advice on repairs is ok. but do not think it necessary to actualy, show them how to do it. with this present economic climate i believe this is not the way forward,
hope this does not offend, am i being to fussy or am i not the only independent engineer,with this point of view.Re: New way to replace Bosch brushes.
ddirect wrote:Quite concerned, penguin 45.
am i right in thinking you have to much work, and are therfore posting on you tube, a do it yourself guide, for the public, on how to repair appliances.
i do believe that giving people general advice on repairs is ok. but do not think it necessary to actualy, show them how to do it. with this present economic climate i believe this is not the way forward,
hope this does not offend, am i being to fussy or am i not the only independent engineer,with this point of view.I feel the same tbh.
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The video was done in conjunction with the shop@ outlet to help to reduce the large number of queries from people buying the brushes from here in the first place.
This site does not run on fresh air and any and every revenue stream that does not involve charging you directly to use it is a legitimate income source IMHO.
As has been mentioned many times before, some people are not going to call you out no matter how difficult the job is. They will crash on blindly,often making a complete horlicks of the machine.
If however the ones in the middle who will attempt simple repairs do get good help and advice from here then there is a chance they may return to repairs@ if they feel the job is beyond them.
If I were a member of the public watching those two videos I know who I would turn to for more complicated help and advice.
Jim.
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I must say Penguin’s video is the best I have seen of its type on U-tube.
However, like some others, I do see that as giving away a bit too much.What about including a printed sheet with drawings/diagrams with each pair of brushes sold and taking the video down?
That way, only customers who have supported the site by buying something get the info. Can always say we have taken video down to avoid liability issues.
I know it’s tedious and time consuming to draw up a sheet but once it’s done, it’s done and it helps even those who don’t have web access.
Mike.Re: New way to replace Bosch brushes.
This is my tried and tested method, space and hose/cable lengths permitting:
Remove back panel and tilt machine towards you. You can balance it against you. This will give you enough room to get in with a ratchet and socket (maybe need a open-ender for the last couple of threads). Remove motor bolts and belt. Now tilt machine backwards and rest it against underside of worktop.Climb underneath, remove cable tie and plug. Open door, stick your hand inside and pull the tub towards the front of machine. Give the motor a tap and it falls into your hand. Voila! Works for me. 😀
Dave
I agree with you ddirect,
In my opinion its a bit much making videos for the general public on appliance repair, basically it would not take too much to make a video for every repair we do including tub jobs. I can only see that benefitting retailers not repairers.Re: New way to replace Bosch brushes.
also disagree with letting people have free access to videos on how to fix their washing machines. there is no guarantee if you do people will buy the parts from you.
a nice little earner for me is the resetable thermostats on t/ds and w/ds if customers saw how easy it was they would all do it themselves.how about a poll on whether these videos should be available or not.
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ddirect wrote:Quite concerned, penguin 45.
As are plumbers, joiners, slaters, painters, PC techs, boiler techs and a slew of other tradespeople. Add to that FACT, any publisher, government in general, most large corporations, magicians… the list just goes on and on.
Then we’ll start on retailers, just look at HMV, Virgin and others as a typical example of what can happen.
The internet has changed the world and, if you think for a moment that it won’t change yours, think again. You either deal with it or you go hide under a rock and pretend it isn’t happening.
I’m sorry, but that’s the harsh reality.
Or, we could hop in the time machine and go back to the 80’s if you like? Personally I prefer the haircut I have now although I wouldn’t mind being a bit younger. 😉
The internet brings with it a lot of good things and, in equal measure, just as many bad ones. One of the bad ones for established trades is that your “trade secrets” won’t be secret for very long. It doesn’t matter one jot what you think, it doesn’t matter if you try to keep secrets… it just won’t happen in this digital age of free information.
Just ask Iran or China how controllable the information is!
As I find myself telling everyone every time this tired old debate gets raised, (AGAIN!) the best you can do is try to come out in front and get people to trust you and trust that you know what you’re doing. Be courteous, be professional and try to remain calm as the world won’t end, today anyway. But it is changing.
One thing that keeps on coming up time after time on various fronts is that a lot of “engineers” out there aren’t so clever. Many of them just guess at the faults, they don’t bother their a$$ to actually diagnose a problem, they just order everything or estimate the worst possible scenario to write it off.
Is it any wonder that the public sometimes have their doubts?
Don’t believe me, you should see some of the worksheets I see. I know they’re a joke and so does a manufacturer or insurer. But for proof just read the public forums to see some of the “expert” diagnosis.
So, before we all go slagging off anyone perhaps, as a preacher once said, “we should take a moment to reflect” and realise that this “trade” often hasn’t and doesn’t do itself any favours with the smoke and mirrors stuff.
To answer the last point however, showing people what a PITA it is to do some jobs (most) is a good thing, they may well just get someone in to do it as they can’t be bothered with the hassle.
As I have said on many occasions, to Martin most often as he has a go at this regularly, there are three groups of customer:
The ones that will self repair regardless and wont’ call anyone in.
The ones that will have a go if they think they have a chance.
The ones that will get someone in as they can’t be bothered don’t have the skill or don’t have the time.
As repairers you’re not interested in the first. A bit in the second where you can capture them. It’s the third group you need to capture and showing that you know what you’re doing, are professional and good value will get you that work.
The higher value the product, the more fall into the third group as the pain of replacement financially is greater than the cost to repair.
It’s simple economics.
But the hypocrisy cracks me up. We’ll all have free downloads, cheaper CD’s, DVD’s, holidays and a host of other things… so long as it doesn’t affect ME and MY business.
Hacks me off at times as well but, it’s the world we live in now.
K.
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