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“And, without intervention it will just end up like toasters and kettles, they’re throwaway completely as many already are” But refence washing machines, that`s because the spares are so expensive!!. What would you do on a failed Miele if you were a member of Joe public? That part/s could be 400 quid plus the cost of the repair guy = a possible 500 quid on a 800 quid machine = too expensive to repair ( and then what`ll be next? ) but too expensive a machine to scrap = caught by the short ones. Not a good position to find yourself in. VERSES an Indesit that going to cost 115 to get Indesit out, part 85 quid = £200, and a new machine with a 10 year parts warranty costs £230 or less to replace it so the point is what would you rather devalue from? I can see everyones point, and I can see how expensive Indesit and Hotpoint spares are these days….they`ve gone up big time yet again as expected…it`s that Whirlpool effect ( American firm so what do you expect? ) but it is not just those two it is everyone. I stumbled upon a Haier front weight washer, because I trawl through Partmaster every now and again to see what is going on – so how sad is that ? – 32euros for a poxy ordinary washer, it`s a shameless rip off. Or a 3 way i/let valve for a wretched Siemens at £85.OR machines with no spares or not many at all. Nope, the trade and the whole industry has only got itself to blame and NOT the public. They are fleecing and conning the public so that is why folks buy cheap and then walk away when they fail. If you bought an Indesit and it lasted 7 years and cost you 230 quid or less you did ok, if you bought a Bosch, Miele for 800 and it lasted 7 years you didn`t given the same usage; but then crystal balls do not work! Saw a 599 quid Bosch at 4 years old, sealed tank, bearings shot, couple with no kids, it is a dreadful state of affairs.
I`m glad there are cheap machines out there, I make a reasonable living repairing cheap machines up to 300 retail purchase price, the only reason why there is all this talk of playing them down is you cannot charge much to repair them and that, in all honesty, is the major reason why the repair trade is scornful.
Having owned loads of second hand machines of all different types ( because I used to repair them, use them, and then sell them on ) I have never had a truly bad wash in any of them and that even includes a shallow paddled Electra from the Antonio Merloni era better seen as under the Servis brand, but a dreadful thing for other reasons. What I have seen is wash times that will have folks collecting their pension pot by the time the poxy things finish….think I`ll stick with my 19 year old hot and cold fill Hotpoint WM56 50 degrees wash rinse and spin at 900rpm in 59 minutes and that is work clobber too.andyjawa wrote:“think I`ll stick with my 19 year old hot and cold fill Hotpoint WM56 50 degrees wash rinse and spin at 900rpm in 59 minutes and that is work clobber too.
It will still last longer than some of the current crop of rubbish that is currently available.
Don
what other machine can you get a spider and bearing kit for under £15
and on a good day you can do it in an hour
Dave
Yes that is right at trade price as a pattern part. Only mentioned for the benefit of the public is do note that the cir-clip is often not fitted if a pattern part and is easily not noticed so it needs to be removed from the old spider and refitted to the new spider. If you do not do this the phosphor bronze (?) hub gets damaged and water gets in and nukes the bearings.
The Hotpoint WM series had a couple of niggly issues, the more basic one such as my WM56 being one of the better ones, but I have to say across the series they`re by no means a bad machine. Anyone who still has one is well recommended to keep hold of it for as long as possible, Hotpoint pcboard electronics from this era were pretty good as was the guage of wires used and end tags. Made in England too. One of those series where parts are still fairly plentiful with a fair number of decent pattern parts around as a cheaper option though Hotpoint have increased parts prices on these models recently. I`ve just changed both dampers on mine 2 weeks ( well worth 20 quid trade price ) ago so no more leaping around in a bid to escape the kitchen!andyjawa wrote: Yes that is right at trade price as a pattern part. Only mentioned for the benefit of the public is do note that the cir-clip is often not fitted if a pattern part and is easily not noticed so it needs to be removed from the old spider and refitted to the new spider. If you do not do this the phosphor bronze (?) hub gets damaged and water gets in and nukes the bearings.
The Hotpoint WM series had a couple of niggly issues, the more basic one such as my WM56 being one of the better ones, but I have to say across the series they`re by no means a bad machine. Anyone who still has one is well recommended to keep hold of it for as long as possible, Hotpoint pcboard electronics from this era were pretty good as was the guage of wires used and end tags. Made in England too. One of those series where parts are still fairly plentiful with a fair number of decent pattern parts around as a cheaper option though Hotpoint have increased parts prices on these models recently. I`ve just changed both dampers on mine 2 weeks ( well worth 20 quid trade price ) ago so no more leaping around in a bid to escape the kitchen!Erm, made in Wales actually.;)
don wrote:WEA025, WCA030 and the WWD120 models and all have sealed tanks.
Don
Cheers.
So in other words, all the low-end models.
I’m still running my 22 year old Bosch WFK 2801 – it is a beauty of a machine for a DIY repair. I posted some pics here several years ago showing how I replaced my bearings. It was really easy to do for someone like me who is not an appliance repair professional – I didn’t even have to remove the tub – all done in-situ. I’ve replaced the bushes a few ties, the heating element, door latch mechanism, and I think that’s about it.
I know nothing lasts forever though – and this machine is possibly nearing the end of its life – so I want to be prepared on a make and possibly model of machine to buy. It looks like it may well be a Miele.
When I bought my current machine 22 years ago, it is about £550 – the second most expensive machine Bosch made. That is about £900 in todays money – clearly money well spent at the time too.
Keep away from the Miele and I think the Bosch cartridge detergent models if I was you just another thing to get gummed-up and costs you money. Also see if you can find out Miele prices on spare parts if possible – Miele do not have their own parts site like Bosch….always makes me wonder why that is, although we can always make a really good guess!. If you go for another Bosch go onto their spares website and look up the model/s you have got your eye on – that is so long as that new model is on the parts site – and see how much the spares are and whether the models concerned have a sealed tank – just because a Bosch might be an expensive model does not mean it has got a dismantleable tank i.e. stumbled on a Bosch that was retailing circ 800 quid and that had a sealed tank so be very careful. Personnally, I would stick with what you have for as long as it is cost effective as is possible. Some cheap machines do last e.g. next door neighbours Chinese Haus 1000 ( model 1050 same as a then Bush, Haier and a HEC ) saw her through 1x dying husband and then 1x dying son`s worth of washing when it was between 8 to 10 years old – I have it now as a back-up in the garage, ( she then died of old age, and most likely a broken heart, and the family gave it to me ) in other words it still works and still on the original drum bearings – spares a bit of future problem though as with all Chinese stuff ( except Logik and most Siemens are wholly Chinese made or have Chinese parts ). The point is that machine was less than 200 quid when bought from Argos ( hmm, something from Argos that actually lasted longer than a Marcus and Spensicus prawn sandwich at lunch time?…..Rare for Argos and certainly the cr*p Amazon would flog.). £200, 1x pump filter and 1x set of motor brushes cannot not be bad for 10 years usage. You do the maths!
weird works for me wierd
go to https://www.miele.co.uk/
click “service” then “spare parts and accessories”
then click “All miele original spare parts”
after that put in model and your away
Dave
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