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Are there any washing machines on the market without a sealed tank? Our machine has packed up after 3 years and looking for something more reliable/economical to fix.
LG and Samsung, Miele and I think that’s it. Not even sure if LG and Samsung have started that as well now.
Vestel are splittable but it’s full rear halves they use and you usually can’t get the bearings for them.
Other than that, they’re all an environmental disaster area that nobody seems to care enough to do anything about.
K.
Yeah, they show that but for many, you need a ~£100 kit and they’re a royal pain to change. If they don’t just scrap that as they have done with several I’ve looked at and make it a full tank anyway.
K.
Basically Miele are the only choice then if you want a repairable machine? I have a 20 year old Bosch WF2801 which is (touch wood) still going strong after much help from people on this forum. I have changed the heating element, bearing, and other bits myself. The bearing was a no brainer to change – didn’t even have to take the drum out of the machine. You can read my travails on doing that job here:
Saying that – i’m well aware that this machine may well die on me – 20 years is a good innings so I like to keep up to date on what’s available for when I have to make a quick decision. Might it be a good idea to have a sticky post with a list of machines with non-sealed or easily replaceable/serviceable bearings?
I mailed Miele about this. They told me they are all sealed now. I’m at a loss – what do I buy when my current machine packs up?
“I mailed Miele about this. They told me they are all sealed now. I’m at a loss – what do I buy when my current machine packs up?” Everyone is seemingly rather quiet at responding to this revelation and if true, and I will check on monday, that is a turn around so if true the part would noi be inexpensive and so based on that there would be no point buying a Miele any longer would there? To answer this chap`s question I cannot recommemed much these days but here goes as what has a dismantable tank so bearings can be changed: Lg, Samsung – the last one I did no one had the off beat oil seal size in stock except a chap in Latvia – Samsung for a multibillion pound company their spares set-up is crap!, Some upper range Bosch and Siemens but the cost of the parts if well hammered is going to be costly especially if the machine is a built-in machine – I do not like Bosch machines, ( and their newer dishwashers are utter rubbish ) Turkish made Vestel machines, e.g. Royale, Pro Action, White Knight, Luxor and a whole load of others, spares fairly expensive for often cheaply bought machines beware of getting ripped off especially from Partmaster. You can get the bearings they are industry standard size the oil seal from a bearing factor too. Chinese made :Currys Logik you can rebuild, says on partmaster rear half tank only listed ( typical Partmaster!! ) but that is kriptonite as you can get the bearings as standard sizes, depends upon what model as know for a fact that an Amica oil seal is used on Logiks too – always try e-bay because I have seen kits made-up on that site. some Amica, Haier, Russell Hobbs, Haus. There are still a fair few machines that you can still change bearings but whether in the so called same league as Bosch is up for debate
Been having an email conversation with Miele and getting some BS replies.
Now they tell me that their tubs have always been sealed. I point them to bearing plus seal kits for sale online – they say those are fake,
They tell me they under their 10 year ‘Quality Pledge’ thryvwoukd replace the whole machine if my bearing broke within 10 years or 10,000 hours of use. When I asked for documentation on that:
Unfortunately we do not have any documentation relating to our quality pledge for the Drum and bearings, this is something that our technicians advise on as and when the situation arises.
I have a feeling that Miele aren’t the company they used to be. I’m at a loss at what to buy next. I’m tempted to just buy cheap as chips and just dump it when the warranty runs out.
Well I phoned up Miele`s sales Dept on Thursday ( rather than Monday ) and they told me that right across the board their machines do NOT have sealed tanks = bearings can be replaced. Aris: Now they tell me that their tubs have always been sealed. I point them to bearing plus seal kits for sale online – they say those are fake ” Now the situation is somewhat even more confused In the reply to Aris did Miele mean yes of course our tanks are sealed so THEY DO NOT LEAK and fake bearings comment could have meant those bearing kits for sale on Ebay for 30 quid are pattern parts = ( in Miele`s eyes ) fake parts.
I give up just going around in circles.I carried out this exercise a while ago which took me a while IIRC. None of their appliances have sealed tubs. The bearings and seals can be changed by a competent person.
I think you are getting confused about “fake” parts. As far as Miele are concerned fake is not a genuine part. We in the trade call (fake parts) pattern parts, in the main they work as well as the genuine article. Will they last as long as the genuine? Who knows but it gives the consumer a choice.
Miele bearing failure is rare and as said before if they did fail in a short time I would expect the machine to be replaced.
Don
So really, the best bet from a repair ability point of view is a Miele? Even the low end duchess the WSD123?
aris wrote:So really, the best bet from a repair ability point of view is a Miele? Even the low end duchess the WSD123?
Yes indeed 🙂
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