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On reflection,
I don’t know about David M Bell. But I bet he has a second name beginning with the letter U that he is keeping quiet about. :rolls: 😆
Jim.
Re: Number 2 is watching.
Handbags at midnight possibly? 😆
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … 244#104244Greg
Re: Number 2 is watching.
Looks like I will become public enemy No1 again, oh well sh!t happens 😆
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … 598#104598
Removed a post by Serr this morningHi colleagues,
Greetings from Russia!
6 months ago, I encountered the same problem with my Bosch KGV3604 and successfully solved it. As the solution was somehow different (and more advanced) 8), I’d like to share my experience. Those who know Russian may look at http://monitor.espec.ws/section7/topic63722.html and around there.In short, the faulty NTC thermistor measures the temperature of the evaporator behind the back wall of the cooling compartment. Its resistance should be 16.33 kOhms at 0 Celsius and 5 kOhms at 25 Celsius. The fridge controller switches compressor ON when thermistor resistance goes below 15 kOhm (evaporator temperature above +3 degrees Celsius). As the thermistor degrades over time, its resistance increases due to worsening contact. At some moment it fails to go below 15 kOhms and so the compressor does not switch on anymore.
The idea is to replace the faulty thermistor. The original part is EPCOS M2020, it is located in a channel in the evaporator.
If you are still able to start your fridge, you can find the exact location of the channel. Look at the back wall inside the cooling compartment and note the lower edge of the frosted zone. The evaporator channel is about 1 inch above this level.
Now
1. UNPLUG your fridge
2. Go to the back side of the fridge.
3. At the LEFT side of the back (looking from the back of the fridge), cut a “door” of about 5 by 5 inch in the back covering around the level you found. The covering is essentially a foiled cardboard, so a sharp knife is enough.
4. Peel off and open the “door” (do not cut it off completely) and dig out the PU foam in this area. At the depth of some 3 inches, you should see the edge of the evaporator (made of steel) and a pair of wires entering a horizontal channel in the evaporator from the left. Pull the wires and see what you get.I got a green plastic cylinder of about 3/8 by 1 1/4 inches filled with rubber, with thermistor pellet inside the rubber. The rubber was in a very bad condition and thermistor contacts were detached from the pellet. The degradation was possibly due to moisture (PU foam is not moisture-proof) and alkaline medium (there was a distinct ammonia-like smell).
As I could not find the original EPCOS M2020 sensor, I took two miniature high-precision EPCOS S863 thermistors of 10 kOhms @ 25 Celsius (there is a 5 kOhm version, but the shop did not have it), joined them in parallel, sealed them with epoxy, smeared with silicon sealant and put into a heat-shrinkable tube. Maybe a little excessive, but I did not like what happened to the original sensor. This gave me a resistance of exactly 16.33 kOhms @ 0 C (measured in mixture of ice and water).
I soldered the wires of my new sensor to the fridge wires, sealed the joints with silicon and heat-shrinkable tubes and inserted the harness back into the evaporator channel. Then, I foamed the dug-out space with PU foam, cut the foam flush with the back surface, closed the “door” in the covering cardboard, and sealed the whole area with aluminium tape.
After 6 months, the fridge works OK: about 50 minutes ON, then 50 minutes OFF, etc. It survived this very hot summer without any problems.
The solution is a little risky, but if you feel confident – good luck! Do not forget to UNPLUG your fridge!Way too indepth for public forum 😀
PM sent to clarify the guidlines 😉
GregJust unstuck Andy triggs silly “sticky” post but while on subject, can I unstick Paul Paddisons “parts supplier oops” thread as i for one am sick of looking at it.
eastlmark wrote:Just unstuck Andy triggs silly “sticky” post
Which one Mark?
but while on subject, can I unstick Paul Paddisons “parts supplier oops” thread as i for one am sick of looking at it.
:tup:
Greg
Re: Number 2 is watching.
Which one Mark?
this one: http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ic&t=18677
Unstuck the paddison one, if anyone feels its still important then re stick it by all means.
Re: Number 2 is watching.
After the heat he took about naming and shaming, he has changed his name now (drinkywinky) to carry on his Classified campaign in-cognito :rolls:
Thanks to John Mac for his detective work 😆Greg
You’re spot on Greg. My suggestion is to let it slide into obscurity and then bin it to protect the innocent.
K.
Re: Number 2 is watching.
I apologise for the surfeit of beer causing me to respond top the above post. Heh, heh. Not really, I actually thoroughly enjoyed it. Ho, hum, delete if you wish….
:beer: :p45: :beer:
Re: Number 2 is watching.
gegsy wrote:Martin you beat me to reaper
Cheers Greg :tup:
You know something?….I really do not like the heading of this thread you know?…’No2 is watching’ and all that. It really must grate for those that see the XML scrolling thingy as to WHAT exactly we are moderating on and stuff? 😕
Reaper for example will immediately realise it relates to him as it’s only been minutes since his post was edited by me. So I really really wish the mods ‘talk back’ on this like this wasn’t so bloody obvious? NO2, Big Brother and all that tosh :rolls:
How about a renaming of this thread (yet again!) to : TIME OUT!
Time out represents a period of reflection, discussion and lots of other interpretations that ultimately will not grate with those that see it regularly scrolling past their eyeballs every day???
Whadyathink guys?
Re: Number 2 is watching.
Don’t like Time Out, to much of an Americanism, how about Thread X 😆 that really will get them thinking.
Or how about ‘On Reflection’ 8)
Jim.
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