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Currently have a Whirlpool S20B RBB20 that I loved the look of but after a string of problems that all look expensive now it’s out of warrenty I’m tempted to replace instead of repair, the list of faults is endless so I’m well and truely off the brand so no Whirlpools. 😉
I’m a bit limited in size, one of the reasons originally for the Whirlpool was it’s 660mm depth and this is something I can’t really increase on by more than a few mm for the main body of the unit.
After a quick trip to the retail park my current favouite is this…
Samsung RSA1NTPE at £450http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/985575
Will it be a string of problems to rival the piece of s**t that is the Whirlpool.
I don’t need on tap ice and water…been there, done that, and found it a bit of a gimmic.
Budget wise £450 is spot on but can stretch it a little if it buys me a little more quality.
😉Thanks in advance for any advice…..
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In all honesty…
£450 is WAY under budget for a US fridge freezer or US Style one if you want a decent one.
Try 4-5 times that and you’re into the good stuff. More, a lot more in some instances, if you want the really funky ones.
Sorry but that’s the reality.
K.
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Why not type Samsung into the search facility and click on the Refrigeration forum. 😉
Or make sure you buy the best extended warranty cover you can. :rolls:
Jim.
i wouldnt have a samsung fridge of any description personally
kwatt is right though, you need to be spending a whole lot more cash if you want reliability
if you think the whirpool is, in your words s**t, then you should steer WELL clear of the samsungs
ive had an lg one 2 years now with no problems, but then there are some issues with them too
just do a bit more homework, by using the search banner, or google it
or read thisor this
and believe me, that in no way even scratches the surface
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kwatt wrote:Try 4-5 times that and you’re into the good stuff. More, a lot more in some instances, if you want the really funky ones.
Sorry but that’s the reality.
K.
Liebherr is about the best you can get 😉
DonRe: Recommend me an American Style Fridge/freezer
So basically everything in the retail park stores is pants, which actually backs up what the boy in Currys said. 😆
He actually said all electrical stuff these days has a life of a few years, great sales pitch, but I guess thats the price you pay for everything being made in China for buttons.
So unless I’m spending upwards of £1.5k on something to keep my beer cold and my pizza’s frozzen I’m going to be replacing it every 4 years if I’m lucky.
So doing the maths I can get 10 years service out of 2 or 3 ‘cheap’ units or 1 expensive unit. :rolls:At least Samsung seem to have done the decent thing at some point and accepted a design fault and done a free upgrade unlike the unfit for purpose rubbish that is the Whirlpool. 😯
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When asked for a brand name that’s good the consistent reply from the engineers on this site is to “buy expensive”.
I cannot say if that’s good or great advice, accurate or just safe territory. I’m not a white goods engineer.
I really do feel though that if Joe public walks into a shop and purchases an appliance, that appliance should perform in a satisfactory manner from day one and for a “reasonable” period of time. To accept anything below this level simply because “not enough money was spent” is wrong.
If a manufacturer offered a five year guarantee it would make a bold statement. Most offer one or two years. Purchasing an extension to this appears a simple solution for minimal cost.
Samsung and Proline (Comet) have both come good with me of late so I’m happy to sing their praises at the moment.
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It does appear to me, as a casual whitegood consumer that quality of just about everything has taken a turn for the worse, and I’d guess it is cost taking a priority over quality.
My parents freezer is well over 20 years old, I don’t even know the make but it is nothing special it does’t even have a logo on the front it’s just a big metalic brown front and it has never had any issues. Me, I buy a brand I think is going to be of respectable quality ‘ Whirlpool’ and within 4 years it’s beyond ecomical repair. :rolls:
I’ve had the same issue with TV’s I have a 17 year old CRT TV that is still perfect, my 3 year old Plasma is about to be replaced. :rolls:They just don’t make things like they used to….god I sound old. 😆
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raceboy wrote:
They just don’t make things like they used to….god I sound old. 😆
But you won’t pay ‘what they used to’ I doubt your parents will still have the receipt for the 20 year old freezer but I am darned sure they will have paid the equivalent of between £1000 & £2000 allowing for inflation in todays money.
There are quality appliances out there and thankfully still some people with the good sense to realise that 95{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the time they will save a lot of money over the long term and not be beset with constant breakdowns if they invest in such quality.
Pay cheap, get cheap.
Jim.
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Mike-in-Horwich wrote:When asked for a brand name that’s good the consistent reply from the engineers on this site is to “buy expensive”.
I cannot say if that’s good or great advice, accurate or just safe territory. I’m not a white goods engineer.
“Just safe territory” would be my answer, speaking from years of experience from a field service engineers perspective. Spending more overall gives you a much better build quality and the likelihood of a greater trouble free working life of the product.
Most service engineers make lousy salesman though it has to be said as they have the ability to recognise poor shoddy goods beyond the bright white boxed exterior. Often selling this type of product for them kind of goes against their logical thought patterns.
I personally would not advise buying Samsung (or Proline for that matter) but if I were a salesman working on commission for a living rather than a grease and spanners engineer my loyalties would take a different direction I’m sure.
Statistically the higher priced, better build products are also worthy of getting repaired should they go wrong. Whereas the cheap as chips bottom end of the market have no after sales and servicing value whatsoever. Hence the reluctance for a service engineer to recommend such a product.
Last Christmas I popped into a famous store that ‘lives electricals’ just to buy a pack of AAA batteries as it happens. I couldn’t help wandering in to the washing machine area and in no time at all a salesman asks if he could help me? Rather than reply “just looking thanks” I cheekily asked him what the difference was between this 1200 rpm Zanussi and 1200 rpm Haier at the same price? He replied that “he can’t keep up with customers demands for the Haier because it takes an incredible 7kg load.”
Now that salesman could sell sand to the arabs and no mistake. 😉
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You’re begining to win me round, especially as I hate shopping for these type of products, buying a new Samsung every 4 years doesn’t sound as nice as fitting and forgeting an expensive unit, it’s just a mind field to the untrained eye, one silver box looks very much like another.
I bought the Whirlpool from a retailer that did sell some of the top line stuff and in some cases you could see were ther money had gone but not in all, I’d hate the idea of spending £2k on a unit and something going wrong every 4 years that costs £100 to put right. :rolls:
At that point finacially it would better to scrap a Samsung every 4 years, it’s a wonderfull enviromentally aware world we now live in isn’t it.
And in some case I agree with an earlier post with regard to ‘fit for purpose’ regardless of price if a unit is sold to do a job it should be capable of doing it for a ‘resonable’ length of time.
The ‘it’s cheap what do you expect’ line doesn’t really cut it. :rolls:Re: Recommend me an American Style Fridge/freezer
It’s your choice raceboy. You’ve had problems with your Whirlpool and likely realise the hastle when they break down. Samsung also break down as does any brand for that matter. The Samsung comes up to your specific requirements, just fits in your kitchen and on budget which only goes to prove that the white goods market can be all things to all people given the almost infinite choices on the market right now.
All are sold as being capable of giving a ‘reasonable service life’ and so far EU regulations have yet to categorise what that period might be?
It would be fun to speculate what the standard might be? Currently the ‘ABC style’ ratings seem a fair guide as to product performance and efficiency but what of ‘reasonable life’ eh? 😕
Maybe an ‘ONO!’ rating? 😈
The worst brands getting triple ONO!,ONO!,ONO!
Legions of EU officials could demand to interrogate manufacturers service records, scour waste recycling dumps searching out brand names and insist all purchasers fill out a 38 page questionnaire before the guarantee can be implemented in order to classify the rating.
Manufacturers of entry (low) end products would be forced to pull out all the stops in order to ensure their product didn’t fall into the TRIPLE ONO! RATINGS 😯 😯 😯
Worry ye not, it won’t happen and our world will continue to produce goods for an ever expanding market at an ever reduced costing for those that have any money to spend at all. You will always be free to choose. 8)
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raceboy wrote:And in some case I agree with an earlier post with regard to ‘fit for purpose’ regardless of price if a unit is sold to do a job it should be capable of doing it for a ‘resonable’ length of time.
The ‘it’s cheap what do you expect’ line doesn’t really cut it. :rolls:As long as you are realistic in your expectations of what a`reasonable` life span is 😉
After all an Indesit washer say at £180.00 odd is only going to last you a couple of years if you are lucky, if you are unlucky like one punter I was talking to at the recycling centre last weekend his was only 13 months old 😕 . Compare that to something like a Bosch I would expect a life span of around eight years for a budget of about £350. It will also come with a two year guarantee as well so the Indesit scenario would not be an issue.
The sums don`t need much working out, buy cheap buy several.
This is a good article which looks at the “price” point from another angle.
DonRe: Recommend me an American Style Fridge/freezer
Interestesting article on ‘price’, basically what I was saying earlier by buying 3 cheap or one quality. 😉
But it’s really a bit of a gamble, I wouldn’t recommend an extended warrenty to anyone (just my personal view) seeing people buy a £300 warrenty on a £200 item just seems a little daft to me. :rolls:
The danger is buying ‘Quality’ and just out of a 3 year warrenty it breaks down and costs hundreds to fix.
Looks like a trip to a more ‘quality’ outlet is in order to gauge the price differences and do the maths, or just live with the annoying click from the Whirlpool for another year or 2 or until it actually stops making food cold and NEEDS replacing. 😀Re: Recommend me an American Style Fridge/freezer
Hi raceboy
Just thinking about the original post why not consider a seperate fridge and freezer if space allows from a quality supplier like Liebherr. You can still have that side by side look and no drinks dispenser either 😉 price wise not a lot in it. Where you gain is in build quality, finish, German spec and longevity of life which you don`t get with a lot of the other so called manufacturers out there.
DonISE10 1600 spin AAA rated with a full 10-year warranty available here
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