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November 23, 2012 at 1:34 pm #72690
cornwell40
ParticipantAny motor action (spin or tumble) the motor turns for around a second then aborts the programme, waits and then gives E08. Have checked the motor and get (from top of block) 1.5 Ohm firts two tags, around 2 Meg?? over second two, 5 ohm over last 3. Can’t find any reference to the motor in the component lists on the PDF for this machine but would’ve thought 2 Meg was a little high. Anyone else had this fault, hoping it’s not the dreaded inverter.
Btw motor meggers ok to urf.
TonyNovember 26, 2012 at 11:16 pm #385257cornwell40
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Anyone 😥 , btw are the inverters available now if one is necessary.
T
November 26, 2012 at 11:33 pm #385258kwatt
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Sorry Tony, not seen this.
Usually the inverter is only popped when you get an E10 error and, to be fair, they do actually rarely fail.
But, I’m not near the tech info on it, it’s the office so I can’t see the details of it. 😕
K.
November 27, 2012 at 9:09 am #385259cornwell40
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Thanks Ken, wondering about the motor resistance btw 3/4 more than anything.
T
November 27, 2012 at 10:05 am #385260kwatt
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Yeah it does seem to point very much to the motor and not the card Tony.
K.
November 27, 2012 at 9:01 pm #385261iadom
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Hope this isn’t the start of an epidemic, 😀
Customer has just rung me to say her ISE5-2 Vestel has stopped with E08 in the display. 🙁
It does seem odd that there is no mention of the motor values in the service manual. ❓
No sign of a wiring diagram either.
Also looks like a tub out job to change the motor. 😥
Jim.
November 27, 2012 at 10:21 pm #385262iadom
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Not sure if this is any help Tony. Not off this machine but a Hotpoint, a basic 3 phase motor, are you getting the 2 meg across the tacho?
Jim.
November 29, 2012 at 3:37 pm #385263iadom
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Going to be a funny one this, 😥
Called today, in hindsight I should have just tried it first.
Checked all wiring, no problems.
Motor readings,
The three stator windings..5?
TOC…………………..1.5?
Tacho varied between 1.5M? and 0.75M?That may have been due to me lying on the concrete floor of an unheated garage, frostbite was starting to set in and I had to use the probes from my multimeter as the croc clips from my megger would not fit on the motor terminals, I was starting to shiver a bit. 8) in fact very 8) .
I then reloaded the washing back into the machine, set to spin and it worked perfectly. :eeek:
Tried it on various programmes and it could not get it to fail. :con:
Will just have to see how it goes.
Jim.
November 29, 2012 at 5:16 pm #385264timdowning
ParticipantRe: Vestel ISE5 E08
The motor can be changed without removing the tub. I’ve done one.
(You have to turn the machine upside down).
Joke, that was a joke! 🙂November 29, 2012 at 5:31 pm #385265iadom
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timdowning wrote:
(You have to turn the machine upside down).
Joke, that was a joke! 🙂
:rotfl:As a matter of interest what was wrong with the motor you had to change Tim?
November 30, 2012 at 7:02 am #385266timdowning
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To be honest I can’t remember what error I was getting. I changed it when the machine was only a couple of months old. Sorry.
December 25, 2012 at 11:39 am #385267megawatt
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Had a duff tacho causing the same problem a year ago.
Mike.December 26, 2012 at 10:57 am #385268iadom
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Not had a call back to the one I had…..yet. ❓
Jim.
December 26, 2012 at 11:40 am #385269kwatt
KeymasterRe: Vestel ISE5 E08
Could have been condensation Jim, I’ve been seeing a number of machines being affected by it recently, across all brands.
What happens is that water makes the resistance of mainly LV components but, on the odd occasion mains voltage components, appear “off” to the electronics which then report an error or, just go plain mental.
In extreme cases I’ve seen boards burnt due to it, looks very similar to water damage.
Guys spend hours looking for faults and changing parts to no avail only to discover that the machine magically heals itself. In other words, the room temperature rises and the problem dries up or, they luck out and whatever is changed sorts the short and the resistances come back into parameters that the electronics can understand again.
It doesn’t take much to cause this from what I can see but it’s something that we should all be aware of.
It is also worth noting that, if this is the cause, that changing out parts will only delay the next inevitable failure as it’s an environmental thing that will not be cured unless the machine is moved to somewhere more suitable.
I see a raft of them every time it’s really cold, really wet or really hot.
Meanwhile the punters whine about “fit for purpose” et all expecting the machines to work upside down, underwater, with whatever they put in them and perfect results every time. 😉
K.
December 26, 2012 at 1:16 pm #385270iadom
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I haven’t sent the job sheet in for this yet, was going to give it a little longer, just wondering how, ‘laid it carefully on its back, checked all wiring and then placed it upright and it worked’, will go down with the insurers. :rolls:
I’m not one for ‘inventing’ faulty components to cover me.
Jim.
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