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  • #383575
    iadom
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    Re: Watchdoggin

    A similar problem afflicted the Hotpoint 1460 twin tubs in the 70’s, the alloy spin drum support used to shear off the bearing shaft and the spin can was propelled into the air. :eeek:

    Jim.

    #383576
    Martin
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    Re: Watchdoggin

    I’ve not encountered the failings both Alex and Jim have witnessed nor been aware of them which goes to show how isolated these incidents are. I’ve more chance of winning the jackpot in tonight’s Euromillions than coming across an exploding Indesit any time soon, such is the rarity of these events.

    But the point is that here, for the first time, are cases where a washing machine completely explodes with such force and severity as to be dangerous in the extreme. You’ve all seen the photos, some of you have witnessed them first hand. Being as the kitchen is the hub of the modern household and a popular children’s play area to boot. Maybe, just maybe, somewhere in Britain one will explode and seriously injure someone. Maybe that plastic capped gas point behind that machine pops off and the sparks from the Ceset motor blow the whole frickin’ house asunder. Who can say?

    The saving grace here is that at least Watchdog the other day warned millions of people of the danger. Millions that until then were totally unaware of the danger. Scaremongering it isn’t but instead providing an important public information service. Too bad UKW couldn’t share that information without comment instead of just being critical of anyone buying one in the first place.

    #383577
    washtronics
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    Re: Watchdoggin

    when i was a franchise engineer for indesit we were told to repair these machines that had self destructed, replacing the tank, weight, lid and what ever else was needed, they refused to replace the machines

    #383578
    madangler1
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    Re: Watchdoggin

    washtronics wrote:when i was a franchise engineer for indesit we were told to repair these machines that had self destructed, replacing the tank, weight, lid and what ever else was needed, they refused to replace the machines

    Well that’s not my experience. As I have said I have seen one first hand. Spoke with Field support and they passed it onto a dedicated team in CSD, they uplifted the machine and repaired the damaged,

    #383579
    tj5793
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    Re: Watchdoggin

    I have worked on indesit and Hotpoint for 13 + years and only seen 1 machine that has done this we have been fitting the brackets on every call that needs 1 for about 2-3 years

    #383580
    stratfordgirl
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    Re: Watchdoggin

    Can you say more on these brackets? Is this a recommended modification? Which machines does it apply to? Do you have any part numbers?

    #383581
    madangler1
    Participant

    Re: Watchdoggin

    All ill say on the brackets is more about containment in the event of failure rather than preventing it, they are now fitted to all new machines and retrofitted to older models.

    #383582
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Watchdoggin

    madangler1 wrote:The simple fact is this has only come to light a number of years after they were built, no one has a crystal ball, its impossible to predict this may have happened, a weld on a seem is failing after prolonged use, it’s nothing to do with cost cutting or poor design.

    Whilst people like to throw wood on the fire just look at Toyota, once the worlds largest car make, not a cheap brand or low cost brand. They have issued an unprecedented number of recalls on there cars in the last 2 years. Is this because they build cheap crap?

    Not so true.

    Toyota, Honda, Apple and others have been hit with large scale recalls because, in an effort to reduce production costs, they “harmonised” a number of components across their respective ranges. Some of these components went faulty that were either bought in from third party suppliers looking to do it on the cheap and maximise profit/get the contract or, they were just sub-par.

    That is why the same recall can affect multiple products or ranges.

    So yes, cost cutting can and does have a very direct effect on product durability in some cases. Not all, but a good number can be traced back to either poor testing (if any) or cost reduction.

    madangler1 wrote:The simple answer is If you produce a product there is always a risk that these type of things may happen.

    That is true.

    K.

    #383583
    lee8
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    Re: Watchdoggin

    You can bash the brand for this till your blue in the face, simple fact is this really is a tiny issue, now lets discuss how many untrained, skill less and frankly dangerous so called professional engineers are out in the field…………

    #383584
    lee8
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    Re: Watchdoggin

    DrDill wrote: but anyone who has been selling washing machines for the last 10 years will tell you which ones they get the most complaints about and i tell you now its hotpoint and indesit in the main, and it is no coincidence that these are at the lower cost market, so its easy to say these are rubbish as they are!


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    Or could it be they are the brand leader and sell the most in the UK.

    #383585
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Watchdoggin

    Or, how about you try to keep it at least remotely on topic and keep your personal grudges out of it. 😉

    K.

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