WTA Membership charges

[VillageIdiot2]

Hi all

As agreed previously, the fee for an Independent is £60 (+VAT). How much is the fee going to be for Associate members?

Adrian 🙂

[Penguin45]

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Half? They’re only getting half priviledges.

Chris.

[kwatt]

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Penguin45 wrote:Half? They’re only getting half priviledges.

Why not charge more. After all, they hae more money than we do and that can be used to fund stuff.

K.

[VillageIdiot2]

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Could we sort this out also as a matter of priority please chaps…. I’d say that the fee should be less for associates, firstly, they or their employees can’t stand for council, secondly, they will be non voting. Therefore, they only get information from the association as opposed to input also. Also, the less the fee is for the associates (what is basically a spectator member), more Companies may choose to join and in turn, may increase the chance that our members may get of work offers etc.

Adrian 🙂

[Penguin45]

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Steady – the Associates would be welcome to input all they wish, and share the output. They just won’t decide what the output is.

Chris.

[kwatt]

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Could someone explain to me please why associate members should pay less, if anything they have the ability to pay a lot more without any pain. Sorry, but that’s a failing DASA had and I for one would not be prepared to support that stance.

Sorry working remotely from my phone so short replies.

K.

[Penguin45]

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If we have associates who are retired engineers (discussed before), a discounted membership would be appropriate.

I have a problem visualising how to sell “It’ll cost you more and you’re going to get less”.

Big business, perhaps – would we be better served encouraging sponsorship from them rather than expensive membership?

Chris.

[kwatt]

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Penguin45 wrote:Big business, perhaps – would we be better served encouraging sponsorship from them rather than expensive membership?

Gold star… top of class. 😉

K.

[Lawrence]

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Penguin45 wrote:
Big business, perhaps – would we be better served encouraging sponsorship from them rather than expensive membership?Chris.

That’s where I am at at the mo with this ,the big players will see this as a return on investment ,And What are they getting for their investment – exposure to the full membership to sell/advertise there skills /goods
Now I think that is worth money to them ,the challenge to us is to decide how much money ,one thing is for sure we mustn’t undersell ourselves ,and mustn’t fall into the trap of doing something just because it has always been done that way ,we are more than that and are proving it by the conversations that we are having here .
And thinking outside the box there are more than just spares suppliers out there ,what about insurance co’s that operate in our field,or very outside the box -the likes of Lokring,Danfoss,Ranco,etc

Lawrence

[kwatt]

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Which is exactly my thinking on the subject.

Although a single membership for a repairer may only cost £60 (or £70 odds if we’re being accurate) where you have a member say, like Ade, with six engineers and he gets cards for them all he suddenly gets up to £120 a year. The likes of Johnmac, with 12 engineers, is up to £180 per year.

So larger companies can, in effect pay much more into the pot. Obviously it’s not all profit as there are costs involved but you can see where I’m going here with, now how do you value the membership of a company with over 500 UK employees. Why should they pay less than Adrian or John?

Then you start to think, are the benefits any less or are they in fact more? The associate automatically will state that they are a member of the TA and are then seen, possibly, in a positive light as supporting the independent trade. What’s that worth?

On top of that we’d of course be the good guys and state on the WTA website that these companies help and support the WTA which of course lends us some credence but, at the same time, promotes the associate company. What’s that worth?

I always had a beef with DASA over this as, myself even when we dropped to 2 engineers until the recent re-structured pricing, paid more than Electrolux, a multi-billion dollar global company, to be a member. How can that be right?

The fact of it is that the manufacturers have their own TA, AMDEA and we’re not privy to what goes on, hell we’re not even allowed to join so, whilst we are not excluding the manufacturers at all by any stretch I don’t think that, at the same time, we should make it a walk in the park for them and get chump change for it. Asides from which, if it’s priced right and they stump up, the TA gets a nice little financial boost and can do more for the members.

I would advise some careful thought before setting a policy and this is where we got a bit screwed on how the WTA was formed as, we’re forming it in the limelight and thrashing all this out under scrutiny. Hence I get frustrated when stuff appears not entirely thought through and, where we can’t think of a policy, we copy DASA or AMDEA or some other relic of yesteryear.

My opinion is simply this, almost ignore totally what other TAs do and forge your own way.

K.

[kwatt]

Bump!

I was asked again today by eSpares about membership charges so I reckon we’d better think about it again.

“err, ehm.. we’ve not done it yet”, was not a good answer or position to find myself in.

I could have winged it but I was thinking that may be considered to be a bit out of order as I’m not running this, you lot are. Which is actually a bit of a relief on some levels for a change. 😆

I’ll do it if you want, but I’m not doing it without the authority to do so being given.

K.

[VillageIdiot2]

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My input would only be a stab in the dark really! I’d say around the £200 mark to get the ball rolling……

Adrian 🙂

[iadom]

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Is this question referring directly to the first post in this thread, ‘ charges for associate membership’ or for full members.

I think it should £100.00 for normal membership, as for associate membership, they are not getting what the individual members get in one way, but by the very fact of being ‘associated’ they are receiving kudos of a kind.

Not to sure that we should charge them more for the privilege though, encourage them aboard as much as possible is my line of thinking.

Jim.

[Del]

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I think you’ll find that our first enquirers have already had their first £200 worth for their new code of practice. 😉

Sean

[Lawrence]

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Look at it another way .
What will they get for there membership fee

Access to a constantly growing membership
“Official” adoption of the COP (which once ratifified will be worth it’s weight in Gold )
Use of WTA logos
the ability to mail to all WTA members
The Kudos of affiliation to the only WTA that has a membership card scheme in place

So how much value do we place on all of that ?

In Trying to do so just bear in mind how much they could potentially earn through one mail out to everyone .
Hope that makes sense am off with flu so am as groggy as hell at the mo
Lawrencve

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