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  • in reply to: Diplomat select 620 oven not working #225073
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    Re: Diplomat select 620 oven not working

    I don’t know this model – but silly question – it’s not in auto timer mode is it? I remember many ovens needed the clock to be set before it would return to manual

    in reply to: State of appliance service industry #224835
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    Re: State of appliance service industry

    Many thanks for the comprehensive reply Penquin I will apply for Trade access – much appreciated.

    The state of the market is pretty much what I thought and even in my currenty industry we are affected by the Chinese. Part of my current role is accessing equipment from this region for CE compliance, as the purchasing department are constantly excited by the insanely low prices. Todate i’ve yet to pass anything, as they have no concept of safety acceptable to Western Europe. People will buy this rubbish, but they will learn when they get burnt (hopefully not literally !).

    It may be worth your while for Ukwhitegoods to have a good look at some of these Chinese machines because you could spoil their party. As the only thing they should be able to offer over Europe is cheap labour and a low margin. But they go much further than that, because CE compliance costs. You may well find components that hold no approval outside of China (CCC) and will render it not compliant with EN60335 and therefore illegal to use in the EU.

    As an example one big Chinese supplier I deal with offers a machine for it’s domestic market that is half the price of it’s CE version. It’s mechanically identical, the only thing that is different is the electrical components.

    It’s also not enviromentally sustainable to be chucking £75 boxes of cr@p away every time it goes wrong. Sod the WEEE directive, the goverment
    should be taxing manufacturers for making appliances not designed for a minimum ten year service life !!!

    On another note I’ve always found it an interesting paradox that people are prepared to spend well over a grand for an oven (and rarely use half of it !), but will then spend £300 on a washing machine that gets beaten to death daily !

    I’ll outline my “opportunity” when I get access to the Trade section.

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