[mwilliams]

Re: ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

Many thanks. I’ve now pre-ordered an ISE10 1607 through my local supplier.

Mark

[mwilliams]

Re: ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

Thanks Ken, Chris and Tim for your help.
I’ve decided to go for the 1607. Ken, I understand that it is not likely to be available until sometime in November but has the date been firmed up yet?
Cheers,
Mark

[mwilliams]

Re: ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

Hi and thanks for your comments.

I’ve checked our current Zanussi and it says on the front of it that it is a 5kg hydrowash which I assume means that the drum has a 5kg capacity.

What concerns me about the new ISE10 1607 is that it is an 8kg drum capacity with a 1600rpm spin, which both seem to be much greater capacities than what is recommended to buy on this website’s buying advice pages (as per my first post).

This sites recommendations seem to imply that we anything over a 5kg or 6kg machine affects the machine’s mechanical action and that anything with a spin over 1200 rpm has very little effect on extracting more water from the washing.

Hence, if I follow this sites advice I should confine myself to a 6kg machine with a 1200 or 1300 rpm maximum spin. However, it seems the ISE10 is better built but does it overcome the problems caused by having a larger drum?

[mwilliams]

Re: ISE10 1607W or Mele 3204, Bosch or Zanussi

The dying Zanussi is a ZWF1217W model number 91451770000

[mwilliams]

Re: The new ISE10 model… what will its features be?

Hi,

I’m seriously considering replacing our dying (worn bearings) Zanussi with the new ISE10 1607 machine. However, I note that it will have a bigger drum (8kg) than the outgoing model and a faster spin (1600rpm).
Having seen the buying help advice offered on the UKWhitegoods website re washing machine loads and spin speeds I’m concerned that the new model might not be a good idea for our simple needs: average of 3 to 4 washes per week with no-one having sensitive skin.

In particular your advice on load sizes says:
“where a capacity over 5Kg was used that the mechanical action of the machine was affected. You can get over this problem with some clever drum design to take it to a 6Kg load and retain the wash results but, beyond that it becomes very difficult.”
and
“The other gem of information that isn’t told to people is that these machines require more water and more electricity for EVERY wash. For example a typical 7Kg load machine will use 15{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} more electricity and up to 10{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} more water than a standard 6Kg load machine but, because of the way the EU labeling system works it can still be sold as an “A” rated machine. Over a year this can add up to an additional 1800 litres of water, up to £73 a year in electricity and upwards of £30 a year on detergent.”

And on speed spins your advice says:
“the difference between 800rpm and 1000 or 1100rpm was literally a thimble full of water”
and
“the bearings in the machine are also under far more strain the faster the drum spins so they tend to wear out quicker” and “the harder the spin the more potential wear on the clothing as well”.

So I could do with some advice on whether the ISE10 1607 is good for us or whether we should buy a cheaper machine with a 6kg drum and spin of 1200 or 1300 rpm, e.g. a Miele W3204 for £699 or a Bosch or Zanussi?

Many thanks

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