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Remraf
ParticipantRe: ISE 10 problems already!
Okay, will do – it’ll be a week before I contact the office as I’m away, but will sort it on my return.
Thanks
Jane
Remraf
ParticipantRe: ISE 10 problems already!
Just when you thought this thread had died a death, it comes back to haunt you!
Since I last posted, the machine has on the odd occasion stopped with no clue as to why, but I haven’t been able to add to what I’ve previously said in my postings.
However, today it had stopped and the display was blank, the powder had gone into the machine, but I knew it hadn’t been going long. I pressed the button to start the machine again and noticed the program time was 1:14 – the machine filled with water as normal. After a few minutes I was aware that the machine was quiet and that the timer still showed 1:14, even though it had been going a few minutes. However, there was no red light indicator around the start button (the one that gets further around the circle the further into the program you go). I stood watching the minutes for maybe a minute and the timer went out leaving a blank display.
In addition, earlier in the day, the cycle had finished and END was on the display. But despite a 1600 spin speed the clothes were sodden still – the spin clearly hadn’t worked properly.
Without any error codes I’m perplexed!!!! Any clues????
Thank you.
Jane
Remraf
ParticipantRe: ISE 10 problems already!
I’m sure it has been on the coloured cottons 40 deg wash….that’s my most commonly used program. I will look into plugging it into a different socket see if that helps. As you say, being intermittent makes it difficult to diagnose. Other than standing and watching every wash, I’m not sure I’ll ever ‘catch’ it when it stops – I’m curious too though, and would like to witness what actually happens when it stops. If I ever find out I will post 😕
Remraf
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Sorry, I’m back (original poster) with the occasional problem still happening……. we have had a couple more occasions when our ISE10 has stopped. Last week I had set the machine going, after a few minutes went back into the kitchen to find it was not working and the time display was blank. Thinking I perhaps hadn’t set it by mistake I set the machine going again. A few minutes later it had again stopped and the display was blank. This was at the start of the wash, not when it would have been draining. Third time I set it going I stood watching it for about 15 mins and it continued to wash and completed the cycle normally. However, today the machine had again stopped, but I’ve no idea when in the cycle it had stopped. What I find puzzling is that you’ve said the time display goes blank to conserve energy, and yet when the cycle has finished END appears and stays lit for hours until you switch it off. It would actually be helpful if the display didn’t go blank after an error, after what must be a very short time, and then we may get a glimpse of an error code.
I have cut down to about half measures on powder (Ariel) and since having the machine have given it a monthly maintenance 95 deg wash.
I don’t really know where to go from here?
Irritating though this is, I will add that despite the niggle the machine is lovely. You really can tell it is a quality item.
Jane
Remraf
ParticipantRe: ISE 10 problems already!
Hi Kwatt
Mrs Remraf here (Mr Remraf’s posting seemed untypically grumpy, sorry about that). Anyway, what you have suggested is a possibility – the machine would have sat for a while before we discovered the cycle hadn’t finished. Whether it is down to suds I don’t know, but it would be reassuring to know that it is not a fault, but a design feature. Before it goes into the power saving mode, would it be showing some sort of error code on the panel?
As to using too much powder, having read an article on UKWhitegoods site about powder and also how to look after your machine, I have reverted back to big box powder, using only the amount specified for our water (hard), but I will gladly cut back a bit and see if that helps. I also wash the machine once a month without a load in it on 95 degrees.
The tumble cycle referred to, is where the machine tumbles at the end of the cycle and the creases in the washing are less apparent. In all cases this seems to happen, but then on one occasion it didn’t leaving the washing well and truly stuck to the drum! It’s only happened the once, and it was on a cycle I use often so it was immediately noticeable.
The noisy filling is something we’ve read about elsewhere for the ISE10. As it has never been an issue with any other machine we’ve had, we’re assuming it is the design of the ISE10 and as you say, it cuts down on the wash times. I guess it’s finding the balance between what is acceptable noise wise versus length of wash. It is very noisy though! Does the machine drain quicker than other models?? Just wondering if that could be what’s causing the machine to stop?
Overall though, I’m very happy with the machine and it does have a quality feel to it. Let’s hope less powder does the trick.
Jane
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Whirlpool AWM 8123/S Door Lock
Also! – whilst the machine still runs full cycle, albeit with intermittant glitches when it gets to spin, the spin is now accompanied with a sound like tube train rumble; I’ve had the back off whilst running and the noise is coming from the motor (brushes end I think) – but then stops at the end of the spin cycle as the power is cut and them/c slows down 😕 On occassions after the cycle is complete, we take the washing out and the LCD screen flashes FH at us 😕 Is all this looking like motor problems or the controller? – either way we are tempted to get a new m/c before the next major breakdown.
Regards,
Chris
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Whirlpool AWM 8123/S Door Lock
Well, changed the brushes and it worked straight away with a bit of whistling, but guess that was the bushes bedding in. Has worked perfectly for the last 3 weeks since I changed them – until today! Machine stopped at rinse+spin cycle and shown door open as before and the only program that worked was the drain. Put it on drain so I could get the door open; spun the drum around a couple of times and it sounds ok. Closed the door and put it on rinse+spin cycle – hey presto it works again! – but I wonder for how long? So far in a few weeks I’ve changed the drum bearings and then the motor bushes – am I getting a strong hint to get a new machine!?
Any thoughts? 😕
Thanks,
Chris
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Whirlpool AWM 8123/S Door Lock
Thanks, so guess I need to change the brushes, as none of the other programs work.
Chris
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Whirlpool AWM 8123/S Door Lock
I think I have same problem; machine been working fine after I was well pleased with my success of having the machine in bits to change the drum bearing set, but now the green light shows door is open, even after opening and closing it a few times. The only program it seems to work on is Drain. Should I change the brushes as well? how does the door lock light relate to having to change brushes though?
Thanks, Chris
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Bearing replacement on Whirlpool AWM 8123/S
Thanks for the link – says it all!
Have posted it to my wife’s PC already 😆
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Bearing replacement on Whirlpool AWM 8123/S
Bearings arrived so started 10am, had it all working by 7pm – but was leisurely and had a lunch hour. You were right about the bearings – big hammer is the tool – unless you have access to a fly-press, as so much easier, especially getting the new bearings in square. Anyway, job done, wife pleased and no leaks. I was surprised how much GUNK was in all the hoses and the tub – not nice; but now nice and clean. My thoughts on all this marketing by the washing powder suppliers about them trying to out-do each other on who can wash clothes at the lowest temperature is the route cause of it, also makes the washing machine smell (they don’t tell anyone about the downside of these low temperatre washes). I’ve agreed with my wife that once a week that dishcloths and tea towels are put through at 95 degrees, as I think this clears out the gunk and freshens the machine – any thoughts out there?
Anyway a good job done, and thanks to the help provided on this forum, I don’t think I’d have bothered otherwise – so have done my bit in keeping another washing machine hitting the recycler, hopefully for a good few months 😀
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Bearing replacement on Whirlpool AWM 8123/S
Bearings ordered – on their way! Looks like a busy weekend for me.
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Bearing replacement on Whirlpool AWM 8123/S
I’ve had the back off, and disconected the belt. The motors drive shaft seems to spin fine but spinning the drum sounds like driving up the motorway with noisy tyres – it rumbles, although doesn’t appear to be any play or drum movement on the back bearing that sits behind the belt pulley wheel.
To get the drum out looks like an all day job to me, not having done it before. Don’t see how you can check if the shaft is chewed up until it’s all dismantled, changing the complete drum and bearing unit sounds like a good but expensive idea, surely must be almost more sensible to buy a new machine.
Any thoughts? 😕
I was thinking of ordering this bearing kit:-
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/Washing+ … g+Kit.htmlThanks
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Bearing replacement on Whirlpool AWM 8123/S
Thanks for that, I’ll have a look tonight!
Remraf
ParticipantRe: Bearing replacement on Whirlpool AWM 8123/S
Hi,
We have the same machine, a Whirlpool AWM 8123/S that is about 5 years old. It has in the last week started to have a very noisy rumble whilst on the spin cycle. My guess it’s the bearings on the way out, but wondered if anyone can confirm this or could it be something else. I don’t want to buy a bearing kit and replace if it might be something else.
Thanks
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