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Re: bush ae56tcw cooker thermal fuse
Is it tripping the RCB/RCD with the new element? sounds like the new one is faulty or you have the wires in the wrong place on the element, either way something is going to earth tripping the breaker.
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Thanks Don,
I pulled the machine out earlier as I hadn’t fitted the non-return valve that was supplied, I need to get a new tap, the one I have the thread isn’t long enough and both the washer hose and the non-return valve requires longer threads, even if I do get it on there I can’t physically turn the tap.
Back to the machine, indeed my floor isn’t level, when I pulled it out it I could rock it over the other corners :boops: And in some parts it is indeed flat.
don wrote:I would start at the bottom and work up, check the floor level first, left to right and front to back. That will tell you what needs adjusting.
it’s highly unlikely the machine bottom is out of true as the production order is pallet first, then the base panel gets bolted to it and the machine gets built up from there.
DonRe: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Hi Don,
Yeah I know I can adjust the feet, which is what I have been doing, which is a RIGHT PAIN to do the rear ones haha!
But I am concerned the machine needs it’s feet adjusted even on a flat surface, surely the machine should be “True” Or is this normal?
don wrote:Hi
It just goes to show it’s a good bit of solid kit it is 😉
Adjusting the feet is very easy it’s page 54 of the instruction book.
DonRe: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Well I went for a Miele WDA111, needed the sloping front as the pipes/taps are behind the washing machine. And also wanted the 5 year warranty.
Seems a well built bit of kit, but one thing is bothering me, it doesn’t seem to be level wherever I put it in the kitchen, I noticed this when I un-boxed it, I’m certain the floor is level! I know I can adjust it on it’s feet, but seems with the legs wound all the way up it’s a little bit out, i can rock it across two corners slightly. I have never come across this with a machine before?
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Martin wrote:You could buy 3 of those for the price of one Miele. There must be a reason for that…..hmm?
15 years of worry free washing for the price of a Miele… :rotfl:
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Nearly all set to get the WDA111, then I saw a Gorenje W8543D for £209 with a 5 year warranty?
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Looking at a Miele WDA111 today in John Lewis, 5 year warranty and £50 cashback, so works out around £650. Seems to tick all the boxes, love the utilitarian look of it if i’m honest.
Sorely tempted!
Now I need to find a freestanding induction cooker 😆
Martin wrote:Miele it is then, a tad over budget but by going OTT you’ll get the 20 yrs reliability you want. And yes, you can get the parts and DIY if the need arises in that time.
Sub £500 nooooo!
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Martin wrote:What is your hang up about sealed drums Mr rustyspoons? Your engineering background instinct is very laudable however you will also know how poor electronics are all part of today’s appliances. In the vast majority of cases with washing machines they have ‘electronic system issues’ long before the bearings fail.
Apart from that the heater, the fill mechanism, the drive motor and drain fail or wear out just as quickly. So by the time the bearings are shot the rest of what’s left is a time bomb with an irrational fuse anyway.
I vote with my wallet, I wish the rest of the population would do the same, I really do not want a throw away item, it is not because I am tight, if I like a product I would like it to last, I hate the hassle of trying to find something I actually like and functions perfectly.
And it’s laughable when I am viewing machines in showrooms that I hear people talk about about buying a machine and go by the badge on the front, as they were a good brand 20 years ago, we as consumers are conned, badge engineering, nearly everything is a re-branded Vestel these days.2 Things I don’t want, a non user serviceable drain filter, this is something I clean out every few months and I have found things that shouldn’t be in there, I like to keep them clean for a clean wash too, built in “non user serviceable” filters are for greedy manufacturers or service networks supported by that manufacturer.
A sealed tub, this is not only ridiculous in terms of not being able to strip the drum down to change bearings the spider or remove a dreaded bra wire or coin, the WEEE have done this in a counter productive way, yes it recycles easier, but more machines going to landfill and a bigger carbon footprint, not to mention smaller bearings as a result of this too.
The demise of every machine I have owned was bearings, if I liked the machine enough i’d do the brushes and bearings, find it quite therapeutic 🙂 And gives you a good feeling knowing it will work for longer.
Yeah I’ve had other issues on machines, solenoids, door switches, torn door seals, control boards, but I’ve repaired those with ease and the same can go for any item with moving parts or electronics.
One of my cars is a 30 year old BMW E28 Shark Nose 5 series, it just keeps going and going with preventative maintenance, I have no reason to get rid of it, it was my late fathers car who passed away last year, he was a Fabricator/Welder/Engineer and I was brought up to fix everything.
I have worked as a Electronic and Mechanical engineer and do enjoy fixing things, it annoys me being short changed, it seems this day in age we cannot buy anything of quality, pay more and get more gadgets not build quality.
I bought a Naim audio Amplifier last year, cost way more than it should have, but I will have it 20-30 years, so it’s actually good value for money.
I have a repair bench at home with multimeters, 300mhz digital scope, hakko/weller temp controlled soldering stations, SMD rework tools, programmers for nearly every programmable flash/eprom/eeprom/pic/atmega etc.
So if the electronics fail, i’d have a damn good job of getting it going again, I’d enjoy the challenge.
So in a long winded way this is why I don’t want a sealed drum, it prohibits my chance of repair.
Ultimately I don’t want it to break, but if it does I’ll get it going.
I’m still undecided, I have seen a Siemens on sale in John Lewis with a split drum, but looking at the part catalogue, it seems to be the same as a £350 Bosch sold for £500 and in turn I think it may just be a Balay!, talking of Balay I looked at their product line up, they even have the same stamped casing as the Bosch/Siemens and the same function names, “Variodooberywhatsit”
Now are these Bosch designed Balay or Balay designed Bosch, so hard to work it all out.
LG seems at the top of my list at the moment, or I will get a 1990’s machine from the 2nd hand market and refurb it, I did used to like the old Philips Whirlpool (The ones radio rentals used) or a real AEG, but I guess times have moved on and I might be stuck in the past 😀
Miele is getting tempting for just a couple of quid more, but after that 5 years, can I get parts myself? Are they as good as people say. The way I am going I will end up with a Wascator, good job i’m currently single, the Ex insisted on Hotpoint :rotfl:Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
I wonder what this is like, yes I know it’s made by Arclik (What a name haha!)
Seems to be one of the cheapest machines with a 5 year warranty though!
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
kwatt wrote:
rustyspoons wrote:
So there is no way of knowing if you are getting a good Bosch or a Cheapy 🙁Well, a few months back I took apart a brand new “German” Bosch that had a sealed tank, sealed door, same dampers as a £200 Beko and a few other things that kinda made it clear that, it really wasn’t worth the £700 asking price. Looked nice on the outside though and its got a Bosch badge slapped on it so, they’ll sell them.
The Spanish one, you could split the door, tank and the rest was much the same. But, while the tank can be split, as I said, you need to cut the tabs off it, bust it open, then seal it back up with a £40 (IIRC) as well as put bearings in it. I’d guess more than a few will see a skip before they see that being done.
All Hotpoint, Indesit etc are now sealed.
All Beko are sealed.
Most Electrolux are sealed.
Whirlpool I think are that way as well now.
Candy Group, including Hoover, all sealed.
Gorenje I think are going that way now too.
You may be sensing a trend as that’s probably upwards of 70-80{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the market. 😉
But, people want cheap, cheap, cheap and, this is one of the ways that they all do that.
Sadly you are one of the minority thinking about it before you find out what a pile of rubbish you may be about to buy. More people just care about the price, the energy rating, the spin speed and how much energy it uses, not about whether it’s any good or not.
They find that out too late most often.
K.
Thank you for taking the time to write a concise and informative reply.
I hate buying cheap rubbish, I don’t care how aesthetically pleasing something is or how many flashing lights and useless features something has, it’s whats on the inside that counts. Well unless we are talking about women :boops:
Well it’s such a sorry state of affairs with consumer goods in Europe, when I bought my last machine it was the Plastic drum housing debacle, now we have sealed plastic drums? Not to mention the lack of user serviceable drain filters on some models!!!
So these machines all brag about their A+++ rating, what about the other environmental credentials, serviceability should be key, governments should stamp down on this nonsense.
I want to pay more for quality, not pay more for gimmicks, but that seems to be the way!
Having worked as an service engineer and an electronics engineer all my life I have seen my fair share of good and bad, not worked as a service engineer on white goods, but principles remain the same.
Wow, a Bosch with the same parts as a Beko, it just all seems to be in the badge on the front then.
I was actually looking at a Posh Beko a Blomberg the other day, looked okay to be fair and had a long warranty, no idea if they are any good however, but I have nothing against Beko, they seem to be the best for real cheap appliances.
Well I really do not know what to buy, think I will rule B/S/H built machines, I used to like AEG, I know they are Electrolux now, but they are identical to the Zanussi which is £200 cheaper!
Shame the ISE thing didn’t work out, they looked like interesting machines.
So where do I go here, I’m getting fed up of looking at service manuals now, do I get a el cheapo Beko or something, or is there anything out there that will last! I think costco had twin tubs last time I went in there :rotfl:
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Hi Don, not specifically looking for a Bosch, just the best machine I can get for under £500.
I had a look at that model you suggested. It’s too basic and I assume it’s a Balay Bosch too.
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
kwatt wrote:Nope. They’re not too keen in letting people know that the “quality German product” is actually built in Spain or China or Poland or Turkey or….
All you’ll get is “Made In EU” maybe while the ones built in Germany will say “Made In Germany” normally.
That does not mean to say that they are all German, Spanish or whatever as components can come from anywhere. Country of origin is only (as far as I am aware) where the last “major” process is undertaken, like fitting the door or something. So, as an indicator, it’s often next to useless.
K.
So there is no way of knowing if you are getting a good Bosch or a Cheapy 🙁
That’s a nightmare!Any machines you recommend?
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
kwatt wrote:LG you can still replace the bearings so far as I know.
Malay ones are the cheap as chips Bosch machines. I’ll let you work that out. 😉
K.
Is there a quick way to find out if it’s a Balay Bosch when looking at them in the store?
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
What are the Balay plant ones like? I’ve been looking at a Siemens IQ300 as well, sealed drum though. What’s the score with LG, mum has one and loves it, can you change bearings on those or do bearings last longer?
Just trying to work out what’s the best machine for this price range.
Re: Can I get a Non Sealed Tub Washing Machine Sub £500?
Thanks for the replies.
I could get a sealed drum, but I hate the idea of not being able to change bearings.
I’ve been looking at Bosch and Siemens, I have found 2 Bosch that have a split drum, this is one of them:
http://www.euronics.co.uk/laundry/washi … 490gb/1720Though I have no idea how good a “Maxx” range is, it seems lower Bosch models have split drums, which is a bit odd?
I have been looking at Miele but self repair concerns me with available parts etc.
