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November 22, 2020 at 12:52 pm in reply to: FAULT – Indesit ID60E Electric Cooker Hob completely not working … #473312
UKWGoodsy
Participant1. Can anyone supply FULL circuitry via DM?
2. How do I change Post Title to [SOLVED] ?
November 22, 2020 at 12:50 pm in reply to: FAULT – Indesit ID60E Electric Cooker Hob completely not working … #473311UKWGoodsy
ParticipantI believe I found the problem!
Although I did check the external connection block before and saw nothing strange, this time I found the N cable slightly melted – just a bit and the N LINK slightly scorched!
I went to check the ID60EWS connection block and ‘reminded’ me that this cooker had link pins you take off [just the L1, L2, L3 two pins] when you have a 3 phase connection – i.e. this cooker can be converted to a 3 phase.
Now, the connector also has ‘strangely’ a N link pin which you DO NOT remove when in 3 phase!
This BLOODY pin is actually NOT connected properly – that is why I had this sporadic problem and it made me think it is to do with the connection block when [now remembered] last night I put cooker back onto the wall – after it was working when I disconnected right side plates … thinking I found the problem.
i.e. that BLOODY connector ‘is’ the problem
The original LINK PIN was connected the other way around – one side is about 10mm shorter – the shorter side must go WITH the N cable and not the other way around.
So there was a connection, but just barely – good job I did connect cables very tightly from when bought.SOLVED … I sincerely hope – as I thought it was to do with L or N not properly connected as I did all resistance checks = all fine twice!
PS I hope this helps another family and technicians – this felt nice, since 1990s when I used to do Airport radio racks – the military way using military grade huge connectors and racks – loads of internal wiring and even telephonic central connections – you know those 3m high racks with loads of multi-connections for 100 ‘pairs’ each connection?
November 21, 2020 at 12:51 pm in reply to: FAULT – Indesit ID60E Electric Cooker Hob completely not working … #473310UKWGoodsy
ParticipantThe plates are connected in pairs, therefore it would certainly affect 2 of them.
mmmWould be nice to see full connections or full connections of plates + cooker thermostat at least – if possible.
Thanks again to take your time for me.
November 21, 2020 at 11:58 am in reply to: FAULT – Indesit ID60E Electric Cooker Hob completely not working … #473307UKWGoodsy
ParticipantPlease Check DM
Thank you
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S/N 302017504 25812300000November 21, 2020 at 10:43 am in reply to: FAULT – Indesit ID60E Electric Cooker Hob completely not working … #473305UKWGoodsy
ParticipantI totally agree, that is why I do not understand it and in my view that is why this cooker has disappeared from market!
If anyone can find a diagram … that will help to solve this mystery… it possibly have wrong wiring somewhere from factory.
November 21, 2020 at 9:24 am in reply to: FAULT – Indesit ID60E Electric Cooker Hob completely not working … #473303UKWGoodsy
Participantelectrofix wrote:have you checked the terminal block ?
Dave
Hi Dave – yes twice – that was my first thought too – really nice tight connections, but one thing I noticed since purchased it [~5-6 years ago] the block coming slightly off – even with the 2 screws on!
Then yesterday I re-opened the back cover and noticed [after] while putting back cover on – as it started to work – the block was forcibly pushing over the back main oven chamber – on the insulation!
mmm a thought I always had – THAT might be a problem, but no scorching marks – nothing obvious and never tripped Consumer Unit.
Now it is working again, but next time it happens I will [disconnect mains!] take the block off and insulate it internally and it might works! Then re-screw it on and leave it a bit off the back cover.
If anyone can get a wiring diagram, it will make my day – thanks for the valuable input.
November 20, 2020 at 11:11 am in reply to: FAULT – Indesit ID60E Electric Cooker Hob completely not working … #473301UKWGoodsy
ParticipantUpdated… now it has been with:
– Both oven lights on
– no timer
– NONE of the top plates work at all – no light too
– Both ovens do work fine and always worked fine
– TOCs are fine as oven works and both fans work
– disconnected top hob elements – same!
– I have not managed to find a diagram I could follow yet
– grandson needs food! ;p]
– re- opened this morning, no obvious problems, checked continuity on Mains inputs throughout and also TOPsI just got no idea, it is not my field
Anyone?
Should I register as business -as I am one – but in lockdown – forced to close as non essential!Thanks
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