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Hi everybody
Hope you don’t mind me joining up here to ask a question, so many experts on here, washers and dryers are just work horses to me that need to work and that is why I ask for help because I was so wrong with my last choice!
3 maybe 4 years ago I bought an Indesit W161 which soon started to show that paying £260 for a machine was not a good idea. My family consists of myself, my wife and 3 girls and the washing machine is on almost always twice a day 7 days a week sometimes more. Fortuantley after the indesit gave us early teething problems my wife decided to take out insurance on it, something I don’t agree with but she was right on this one. Five bearings, 2 drums and a couple of computer units later we still have a working machine but just dread the next grind!
So with a spare bit of cash I am seriously thinking about purchasing a Miele W1512, but I would like someones advice please.
With the amount of washing we do is the Miele going to suffice, I realise it is their base model and the concern I have (I think) is the relatively small 5kg load and 1200 spin, are these going to be enough for my family? Ask me a question about computers or cameras and I can answer, ask about washing machines and I don’t have a clue 😳
Many thanks, I will of course follow up, I am not a one question forum wonder 😀
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
(Dusting off the Crystal Ball) – I foresee good things to those that buy Miele.
(Joking apart) I have just recently bought a Miele Prestige Plus from John Lewis. My hubby has heart & kidney failure & I am always washing every day. – My Whirlpool of a couple of years failed miserably and after receiving some very good advice from the chaps here on this site, (Now without massaging people’s ego’s here, Kwatt really is a Darling & worth his weight in gold.) Based on his advice, I bought the Miele instead of John Lewis own make AEG-Inspired Mongrel machine from John Lewis’s & I am rather glad I did.
My machine had a free by voucher redemption, warranty offer on it to extend the warranty on a free of charge basis to 5yrs? I think it was????. – I think that offer may still be valid, but do check, as different Miele’s seem to have different offers, some extend to 10yrs. Certainly I don’t regret buying the machine, it is whisper quiet, it does a bloody good job at washing soiled laundry & I really wouldn’t be without mine now. (despite always having a preference for Whirlpool products)
At the very least you will get 5yrs trouble free (hopefully) and I am given to understand that Miele test their machines to the limit and try to design them with at least a 20yr life span. – I suppose after the 5yrs for a modest fee you could always extend the warranty just to cover your back.
Go for it says I & the very best of luck.
😀
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doozeruk wrote:Hope you don’t mind me joining up here to ask a question, so many experts on here
Indeed so, many experts are on here and so much advice to give all from people (like me) that are actually ‘in the trade’, therefore no better place to ask I shouldn’t wonder? 😀
If you like, look up Miele in our manufacturers review: –
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ge&pid=214
And from their owners: –
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … sc&start=0
Then take a close look at what is, without question, a more fitting alternative with non of the pitfalls: –
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ge&pid=153
Then, make your choice!……. 😀
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
Go for it, I’d say. WQ, what is your Prestige Plus like, we’re thinking of buying that one?
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Wow, what helpful folks on here.
I too help out many people on camera and computer forums, it is rewarding, even if one posters are sometimes annoying 😉
Thanks for the advice, I had already done the search for the machine on your forums and gleaned a little, I think it worries my wife spending near on £500 on a washing machine, but I see the logic, being self-employed myself I appreciate quality and so do my customers even if we don’t charge the earth.
As the indesit (I hate that word) is a 1600 spin, am I (or should I say my wife) likely to see a big difference in the dryness of clothes coming out of the Miele?
Thanks again
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Yes you will, despite the spin on the Miele only being 1200, the drum is a ‘microhole’ which means it has really lots of holes. Its not necessary the spin speed that makes it effective, its also the amount of holes. As Indesit would use thin tinny steel, they’d only be able to put a certain amount of holes in, but because Miele use thicker steel- they can perforate more holes.
So an expensive 1200rpm machine can spindry more effectively than a 1600rpm cheap machine.
Hope this helps. 😕
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Ok thanks
One more question then :bounce:
Someone told me last week, the reason we had had the bearings replaced 5 times in the in**s*t was because it is overloaded with washing, is that true?
Getting my order in Saturday for the Miele then.
regards
doozerukRe: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
Not necasserliy, the bearings can go for that reason, but also because its cheap steel they’re made from, obviously, that the cheaper a machine is, its going to be stuffed with inferior components.
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adamhornsby wrote:Go for it, I’d say. WQ, what is your Prestige Plus like, we’re thinking of buying that one?
It’s very good my dear. Very quiet, very efficient, cotton cycles can sometimes take a little while which can be a pain (depending on program) but wash after wash comes out perfect every time. There is an economy & quick wash program, off the top of my head I think it has total of 18 or 19 progs
I believe mine is the bottom of the range machine, but I am very happy with it and would recommend it without question. I may also say that John Lewis’s were fantastic, not pushy and very helpful with regards to answering my questions and giving me brochures.
WQ
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doozeruk wrote:
As the indesit (I hate that word)Me too! , (Now on her Soap Box……or should that be Soap Powder Box) as a consumer, I hate anything connected with the Merl-Tinpot corporation. Not only do they asset strip the heritage of our once glorious English brands, they sack all our workers, shut the factories and then stick two fingers up to us as Brits by selling us shitty Italian made goods that will break down within a year.
Maybe we should rename them as a formal protest.
Merphoney Domestrifeiti Group
IndeshitCompanyI could go on, but my Gin Bottle is running low, so excuse me whilst I refill………..WQ
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adamhornsby wrote:Yes you will, despite the spin on the Miele only being 1200,
I hate to be picky but I think mine is a 13OOrpm spin? – WQ
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Yes the Prestige Plus is 1300rpm the same as our current Hoover, it doesnt have delay start, yet we never use the one on our Hoover anyway. I will welcome the silence that will be bought into our abode as it sounds like a Boeing 747 taking off! and also the program sequence indicators will be a boom.
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WhirlpoolQueen wrote:
doozeruk wrote:
As the indesit (I hate that word)
Maybe we should rename them as a formal protest.Merphoney Domestrifeiti Group
Indes**tCompanyI could go on, but my Gin Bottle is running low, so excuse me whilst I refill………..WQ
Yes maybes we should rename them that, I always feel my blood boil when i hear Merloni, Ariston, Hotpoint, Creda, Servis and that word pronounced by the devil which is Indesit.
I think Adam needs to cool down a bit.
By the way, is it the same Merloni tinpot company that owns ASKO and the one that also owns Ardo which look distinctively like Servis machines?
Dragging ASKO down like that. Unbelievable.Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
adamhornsby wrote:
Yes maybes we should rename them that, I always feel my blood boil when i hear Merloni, Ariston, Hotpoint, Creda, Servis and that word pronounced by the devil which is Indesit.I think Adam needs to cool down a bit.
By the way, is it the same Merloni tinpot company that owns ASKO and the one that also owns Ardo which look distinctively like Servis machines?
Dragging ASKO down like that. Unbelievable.I not 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} sure but my understanding of it is it’s not the same company as such, different branch of the family. Something to do with a family row many years ago & so parting of the waves as it were. – I am sure Martin will take great pleasure in correcting me, giving that I am not an “Expert” who is in the trade so to speak. – Do my many years of working my butt off for NEEB/Northern Electric Retail count for nothing?
WQ
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I would like to comment on a few points raised so far in this thread if I may? 🙂
adamhornsby wrote:the bearings can go for that reason, but also because its cheap steel they’re made from.
That’s not strictly true as most manufacturers use bearings made by SKF, a multi-national company, Miele use SKF ball bearings as do Indesit. The reason bearings fail is not of their own making but thanks to inferior drum shaft and water seal design.
adamhornsby wrote:So an expensive 1200rpm machine can spindry more effectively than a 1600rpm cheap machine.
No way! We are talking ‘centrifugal force’ here and any washload in any machine irrespective of make will extract more water at 1600 than at lesser speeds. Theres no more holes in a Miele drum than an equivalent Indesit. So both of equal size and speed will extract the same amount of water. Decrease the spin speed or the drum size and there is no comparison.
WhirlpoolQueen wrote:I am sure Martin will take great pleasure in correcting me, giving that I am not an “Expert” who is in the trade so to speak.
WQ is spot on there :tup:
2 Merloni brothers, two different and seperate companies 😉
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