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  • #68560
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    I changed the WTA Constitution under agreement from Ken Watt and Lawrence Carey whilst breaking the Constitution (Link seen below)

    http://www.whitegoodstradeassociation.org/index.php/about-the-wta-mainmenu-33/wta-constitution-mainmenu-38

    I changed the term from 2 Years to 3 Years because DrDill had joined the WTA.

    The worry (Within WTA Ranks) was that DrDill would stand for election and spoil Ken Watts Army.

    As an ex Team Member, I am now free & can now state that the WTA Team are nothing but Ken Watts ‘Puppets’.

    This is just one confession I have. Mr Kenneth Watt… As you’d like to say in your emails… “Don’t push me in to a corner”.

    Ade.

    #371538
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    If I were you Ade I would get your facts straight before you mouth off.

    First, it was you that suggested this for some reason I can’t recall but I’m very sure that I can find the email exchange on it.

    It was also yourself that made the change.

    To say that the WTA are “puppets” is, frankly, laughable.

    But there’s nothing like a disgraced ex-member seeking revenge in any way possible so, I guess any old cock and bull story will fit with your agenda and, you quite obviously have an agenda.

    And yes, I quite likely said that, to stop you doing something as stupid, irresponsible and unprofessional as post garbage like this just because you got kicked out for breaking the rules and you don’t like it.

    Do you really want to continue this conversation?

    K.

    #371539
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    Yeah…? Lets do this… 🙂

    1. I got kicked out of what? Explain please…

    2. Are you denying that we changed the Constitution contrary to the Constitution itself?

    3. The WTA Team (AND I’VE BEEN A TEAM MEMBER SINCE THE START) are puppets! It’s actually quite comical… Lawrence says no, you say yeah, then Lawrence says yeah in the same fasion!!!!! Lol… IMO the WTA are nothing but Ken Watts Puppets… If you want me to produce the messages from you Ken, I will!

    Ade

    #371540
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    Poor choice of words, as you have put it, you’re made the outcast according to your own, repeated, comments.

    I know there were changes made to the constitution but, as I said, I can’t recall the details surrounding it.

    On your last point, let’s get some things clear Adrian on an official level from myself personally.

    You were on the WTA team from the start, I think or near enough it.

    There is no “puppet” thing going on at all, you’re living in cloud cuckoo land on that one. I advise and, if the advice I offer is taken up on then I suppose it could look that way. But, I’m not in any position to dictate anything.

    But now you’re starting a personal attack on me and, I can’t say that I like that or your tone. But, you obviously have it in for me now over what I’ve told in respect to your abuse of position and conflict of interest.

    Like I said, nothing like a disgraced ex-member. Only thing is, I didn’t start this slagging match and, that’s exactly what you’ve twisted this into.

    I will also react very badly to you publishing any confidential emails or any other media not intended for public distribution in which I have commented in without my express permission on each instance. That includes forwarding or any other form of distribution.

    My position on this is now made very clear and very public.

    K.

    #371541
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    ^ Notice how Mr Watt Replies?

    Ken… You are the reason I stood down as you & the rest of the team know!

    We blamed it on FME, but quite simply, you’re an a55hole!

    An email from Lawrence that DOES state ‘Without UKW Resources I cant see the WTA being viable’ sealed the deal for me…

    And especially where he says ‘If UKW withdraw their resources, I will not continue as Chairman’ double sealed the deal for me…!

    We changed the Constitution, and we laughed about it. I was guilty of that as well as you & Lawrence were.

    Do you deny this Ken?

    #371542
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    Apart from the spurious use of fact…

    Would you care to tell all the readers what you did that caused all this?

    Would you care to explain to them all why you have been denied access to the WTA forums?

    Would you care to explain what you asked the WTA to do last February and the response that you received?

    You may well be able to twist around the odd comment or whatever to suit your very obvious (now) agenda to attempt to discredit me publicly but, in the end, it opens many more questions over your behaviour than it does mine.

    I would ask politely that you drop this. Again.

    K.

    #371543
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    Would you care to tell all the readers what you did that caused all this?

    Of course… I ignored INSTRUCTIONS from WTA Council members regarding posting in a thread that questioned my motives. I posted, you DELETED my post! You deleted my post Ken and sent me one shitty email at 10 to 1 in the morning telling me to ‘Shut the F**k up’…!

    Would you care to explain to them all why you have been denied access to the WTA forums

    Of course again… Because I wouldn’t pay a penny to be a part of your puppet gang after being involved in it!

    Would you care to explain what you asked the WTA to do last February and the response that you received

    Of course again… I asked the WTA to promote FME. The WTA said no… You can’t speak on the stage but we’ll promote you in the forums. Your point is…?

    I would ask politely that you drop this. Again.

    No. The WTA (In my opinion) is nothing but Kens Army.

    Ade 🙂

    #371544
    DrDill
    Participant

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    Interesting, but i am more interested in the fact that the WTA costitution was changed, is this allowed? I think this needs to be explained and more importantly why was it changed and under whos instruction.

    #371545
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    Okay then.

    Yes I did because, as I explained to you, you revealed privileged information about a WTA member in your “rant” at about 1am. I deleted the offending and, offensive post, emailing you the content and asked you to consider it further.

    In response, yes I did send a very harsh email. For which I explained my reasons to you on Sunday evening.

    Would you care to tell all what you did in response? Would you care to tell all what the UKW moderator team thought of your antics? Would you care to point out the WTA team member that said not to accept your resignation in finality over what you did?

    As for the “pay a penny”, would you like to explain the circumstances surrounding that and how long that situation has been the way it is?

    What you asked was that the WTA endorse your own private venture, FME and the WTA said no. You didn’t exactly react well and resigned at the time. This resignation will be your third I do believe.

    Basically, in so far as I am concerned, you tried to abuse your position within the WTA and you were put in your place. You don’t like that and you don’t like that you were told to wind your neck in. This thread is just you being all bitter and twisted over you not getting your own way and the endorsement that you were seeking.

    So, in return you’ve decided to attempt to open wounds that, in large part, don’t even exist but you’re twisting things to try to suit your own agenda, the promotion of FME.

    FME which, I told you wasn’t a good idea and I still see it that way, hence I’ve never signed up for it and never will. But it seemed a good way for you to rake in cash from the guys I suppose, to you at least.

    I doubt it will last though.

    And, after this debacle it’s got less of a chance in this industry as you’ve just flown your true colours as a director of a repair company and of FME. I’d not sign up for anything that had a director that acted in the manner you have here.

    K.

    #371546
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    I changed the WTA Constitution without WTA Members votes which is not allowed as per the Constitution. The WTA Team were aware and in favour of the change.

    This is a fact.

    Ade.

    #371547
    DrDill
    Participant

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    Which WTA member did he rant about?So i can assume as usual i will get the flak about this as i was the one that complained so strogly about FME in the WTA thread. My only problem is that if the WTA didnt want to promote FME why wasnt it removed earlier than it was? I would not have gone on about it for so long then, bit confused there.

    #371548
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    Oh so you don’t want to discuss all the things you’ve done wrongly then? Bar of course admitting that you changed the constitution and, will you also ‘fess up that it was your idea and the motivation as to why?

    You don’t mind throwing mud that doesn’t stick but you don’t want to answer the hard questions asked of you?

    No smart answers?

    As you said to me earlier, bring it on.

    K.

    #371549
    DrDill
    Participant

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    I think its time to actually name names and give us the facts, then we can all make our own conclusions and quickly bring this slanging match to an end. Dont worry if my name comes up, i dont care as i have nothing to hide at all.

    #371550
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    DrDill wrote:Which WTA member did he rant about?

    Personally, I’m not prepared to say. If Ade wants to ‘fess up then that’s his call.

    DrDill wrote:So i can assume as usual i will get the flak about this as i was the one that complained so strogly about FME in the WTA thread.

    Nobody was getting any flak until this thread was started. And, since it’s in the general forum I, like others, can say that the devil they like within reason, although I do take exception to the personal attack earlier.

    DrDill wrote:My only problem is that if the WTA didnt want to promote FME why wasnt it removed earlier than it was? I would not have gone on about it for so long then, bit confused there.

    FME was never promoted by the WTA. And, never would be as, as I advised the management team, it was a conflict of interest and a hot potato. They agreed and decided not to do so at the Feb 2011 Meeting, which I refer to above.

    The reaction to that decision is becoming pretty obvious.

    It was agreed that the WTA allow it to be put before the membership both in the forum and on the site but, that was it.

    Ade was allowed to post details about FME in the forum as a courtesy to him. He then went on to abuse that and other privileges afforded him. But I really don’t want to get into the detail of that in a public forum.

    Obviously that wasn’t enough and this is the result and backlash for that decision by the WTA not to support FME.

    K.

    #371551
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: A Naughty WTA Change Constitution!

    you revealed privileged information about a WTA member in your “rant” at about 1am. I deleted the offending and, offensive post, emailing you the content and asked you to consider it further.


    Nope! As per after 1 million emails back and fore, we established that this was bullsh1t and you’d deleted my post in the WTA Forum simply out of ownership.

    Would you care to tell all what you did in response? Would you care to tell all what the UKW moderator team thought of your antics? Would you care to point out the WTA team member that said not to accept your resignation in finality over what you did?

    I deleted the FME Thread! Jesus like! We’d won the Grand Slam and I come home to you lot arguing like women in my thread! My thread had been there over 1 Year! Not nothing, all of a sudden, WW3… So I deleted the thread! Big Shits like>?!

    Basically, in so far as I am concerned, you tried to abuse your position within the WTA and you were put in your place. You don’t like that and you don’t like that you were told to wind your neck in. This thread is just you being all bitter and twisted over you not getting your own way and the endorsement that you were seeking.

    Wind my neck in??? Excuse me? Nahhh butt…! The WTA is nothing but Kens Army. Lawrence hasn’t even gat the balls to go alone! And he’s Chairman??

    Ade.

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