Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

[faintly_bemused]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

I have no errors other than the 13 flashes, so in all probability it is just a bad batch of thermistors. As a temporary measure I have disconnected the dryer heater (though that’s belt and braces, as the thermal trip has blown) and pushed the thermistor back together. That allows the washing machine to work. When I first tested the new element and motor I checked the temperature of the dryer duct with an IR thermometer (out of curiosity more than anything, I didn’t expect this to turn into such a saga) and it was around 60 deg C, which I would have thought was under temp if anything, though obviously the air temp inside the duct will be a bit higher. I have ordered a thermistor from the shop on this site, if that doesn’t work then it appears to have been a false economy to try and fix this.

Thanks again for your help. 😉

[faintly_bemused]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

I thought I’d post back here. It’s been a while since I messed around with this.

Fitted yet another new thermistor along with a new thermal cut out. Started the dryer, checked voltage at element while checking temperature at thermistor base with an IR thermometer. Initially slow to heat, at around 60 degrees the dryer fan and the drum stopped for a few seconds. Both then restarted. A short time later, the dryer fan cut out again (I think the drum as well, I was busy watching the multimeter and thermometer), the resulting lack of airflow caused an overheat. The voltage at the element remained constant at 238 volts throughout the entire heating process. There was no cycling of power to the element. I was a bit taken aback, as I was convinced the element wasn’t regulating, I didn’t expect the motor to stop.

Removed the PCB, didn’t see any obvious damaged joints or burns, though there were areas of slight oxidation. All the plugs looked OK, and the connectors on the board were clean. Incidentally, if you pull the board on one of these, make sure you note the plug positions. It’s possible to cross connect.

Other half needed kitchen back which brought a halt to the troubleshooting. I have disabled the dryer circuit so we can use just the washer part.

The problem appears to be that the fan and drum are being told to stop. The fan motor is new and runs fine otherwise. I think the thermistor damage is a secondary effect of the overheat, either because Indesit can’t make a thermistor which will cope with the heat, or possibly the effect is intentional; an overheat will blow the thermal trip AND destroy the thermistor to make sure the dryer shuts down, though I’d have to point out to Indesit that the thermistor failure doesn’t necessarily make a clean open circuit. In fact it’s likely to make things worse – the lifting of the ceramic top could cause a resistance increase, which would be seen by the PCB as a cool dryer duct with consequent power to the element.

Possibly the error code 13 could be signalling both a knackered thermistor and a stopped dryer fan?

I think it’s either the PCB, or an open circuit in either the fan motor or its integral transformer when it gets hot. Most likely, given that the drum stops as well, the PCB. From what I’ve seen of the prices, it doesn’t look worth doing.

We have limited space, but with a bit of reorganisation we can *just* fit in a separate tumble dryer. We intend to keep the Ariston going as a washer until it fails, at which point it will be replaced with a new washing machine. I’ve looked at the advice on this website, and had a chat with a local supplier about tumble driers. Local supplier recommends Zanussi in the £300 bracket, Bosch at around £400, after that Seimens (which now has a 5 year guarantee) or Miele if you want to really push the boat out.

Zanussi, Bosch and Miele are mentioned in this site’s advice pages, but not much said about Seimens. Local supplier says same group as Bosch, but whereas Bosch is now made in Spain, Seimens are still made in Germany.

Any thoughts on any of the above?

[iadom]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Zanussi are not bad dryers. The higher spec Bosch washers are still made in Germany. I’m not sure if they make any dryers in Germany, some were actually made in Yorkshire a while back by White Knight believe it or not.

A lot of the recent BSH dryers are/were made in Slovenia by Gorenje.

Unless it actually says Made in Germany on the back then the chances are it wasn’t.

[adamano]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Hi all, I have an ariston margherita 2000 awd12s advantage,
My problem is with the dryer, it doesn’t dry, i removed the element housing and found the element to be, well kind of burnt out, will just replacing the element do the job, or after reading through old posts, should i replace the trermistor as well, i have completely cleaned the filter which was full of fluff, and is there anything else i should look at, the rest of the machine works fine still.
Thanks in advance
Adamano.

[Penguin45]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Proving you’ve got all the fluff out of it, I’d replace the element and leave the rest well alone.

Element is HERE.

Penguin45.

[arse-iston]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Hi all I’ll try and keep this as short as poss, I have an AWD12S Advantage and have been experiencing troubles recently, it started when the cold weather came and my waste pipe got blocked with some leftover water that hadn’t been pushed out (I have to route the waste pipe upwards slightly before it gets to the drain which is through a hole in the kitchen wall) and froze in the pipe. Anyway I flushed it through and it seemed to work for a wash and then started going tits up again.

I select programme ‘8’ for example it fills with wtaer and doesn’t stop, if I physically move the dial on one notch is starts to spin then stops and the dial turns 360 back to setting number ‘8’ and stops. I get a steady flash then, but if I move the dial to the stop section of programme 8 I get an on/off continual flashing with no pause (did try to count the flashes but they were flashing way way to quick).

Things i have done up until now are:
take off filter and checked cleanliness:- was fine as only replaced it less than a year ago
took off metal casing at top of machine to de-fluff as seems to be a common problem on this thread:- again clean as we don’t often use the heater side of the machine
disconnected all hoses connected to filter from drum and cleaned out:- nothing offensive that would stop machine
removed and checked brushes:- easily still 20mm on each brush and no sticking
took off what I think is pressure switch hose from top and blew down (as mentioned in previous reply):- a little water came out from filter at bottom (obviously when it was still connected)
checked all electrical connections:- nothing unusually loose or burnt out

Now running out of options and have a feeling that someone is gonna say that a main computer is up the swanny, and maybe its time to look for a new machine?! Either way I live in hope that the old girl is fixable as I have a 3rd littl’en on the way and the back log of food/dribble stained clothes is getting ridiculous!!

Thanks in advance anyone.

[Penguin45]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

1/ Moving the selector manually after the programme starts will cause the computer to advance the knob back to it’s last known programme position.

2/ To actually stop/change a programme setting, switch OFF, move the dial to a black or purple dot. Switch on, wait for the flicker from the LED, switch off and re-programme.

3/ Are you telling us that the machine continues filling regardless after the programme starts? If you set the programme to “spin” only, is it still filling?

Penguin45.

[arse-iston]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

It carries on filling after I start the programme for ages which is why I tried moving the programme on manually, then at the spin section it stopped filling and moved round to start position again, but yes the time that it started to spin slightly it was still filling.

I am going to start putting it all back together today, and maybe try again to see what happens, if not then you think its time to shop?
Any recommendations on reliable models? I now have the bosses permission to get one that isn’t silver!!!!!

Thanks for reply

[Penguin45]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Try this again. If you set the machine to a spin programme only, the machine should pump and then spin. No water should be entering the machine during the spin sequence.

Penguin45.

[bryan1983]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Hi there, first post here.

I have the AWD 12 Advantage, no matter what i do it takes abotu 6 hours for my washing to finish, im no rocket scientist but i know thats not right.

What am i doing wrong, any1 got any advice.

Thanks

[cremeegg]

Hi

Hope it’s ok to piggy back on this thread but I too have an issue with my Ariston Margherita ADW12.

The machine seems to be stuck on a cycle. It happened when I set it to wash. The dial keeps spinning/clicking round and won’t stop until I turn the machine off. In the past, this has been because of the filter but we’ve checked that and its all clear. Something different happens that I haven’t seen before: the machine seems to be ‘running’ and ticking over like it’s trying to do something. This happens even when I switch the machine on after leaving it off for hours – whether it’s set to a cycle or when it’s on the ‘dot’ so I’m not asking it to do anything… the LED flashes 10 times.

Does anyone know what this means and how I go about fixing it please? If it’s not do-able by me and I need a professional, how much would I be looking at roughly (i.e. time for a new one?)

Thank you

[moonan]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Hi to the experts,
I have a Margherita 2000 AL128D and it had a problem around 6 months ago. The quoted repair was around $700 (Australian) and so in disgust SWMBO ordered a Miele.
At the same time, I had progressed arguing with the local retailer and repair agent, with the result that the repair suddenly became $130 + labour. The $130 was for a new main board – eprom flashed for my serial number machine, plus a pressure switch.
I got the impression that the new board was for “just in case” and the pressure switch was the diagnosed fault. I replaced the pressure switch and tested the machine in my garage with the drain going into a bucket. All well, no error codes. Machine went into storage as the Miele arrived.
Now I want to give the Ariston to my son, and have just installed it, and the fault “dial clicking around” occurs whenever we get to a part of the cycle when the drain pump comes into service. I have taken the waste out of the service drain and put it back into the bucket, and all is well again.

I now assume that the pressure switch sent to me is not adjusted correctly and thinks there is a blockage when there is just normal backpressure.

Can anyone advise me wiich of the multiple screws on the pressure switch to adjust (and in which direction) so the machine doesn’t think there is a blockage with “normal” backpressure?
Thanks in advance…

PS the main board they sent me was in fact completely wrong for the machine, the edge-connectors didn’t fit; so I hope that is not the real problem…
PPS the LED flashing is “15 flashes” when it occurs which I read elsewhere on this forum is a drier problem. We have no interest in the drier feature, and the dry cycle is permanently turned OFF.

[iadom]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Even if you do not use the dryer the main PCB will ‘auto test’ all components and go into error mode.

These machines really are a pile of doo doo.

You should not attempt to adjust the pressure switch, you will be wasting your time. 😉

The circuit boards on these are recognised in the UK as the most unreliable on the market.

Has your son done something to upset you. 😉 🙂

[Lbutler]

Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

Hiya, Ive just came across this site and thread and am hoping for some advise. I have a margarita adw12 and recently my external drain froze on the bad weather. The washer must have backed up and water came out of sink. Ive had a problem with error code 10 (drainage problem), however ive stripped out every part of the drain system and its clear, also no holes in the pressure hose. The machine is empty when trying to reset/run, pump is actually running and if I fill drum manually and try it actually pumps water out, but still have the clicking and 10 flashes. Could the water have backed up the pressure hose and knackered the switch? The switch sounds ok when blowing though? If I attempt the various reset techniques it still no good. However if I switch the dryer on and reset from that part of program I then get 5 flashes, are these related to drain?
Also how is the pump supposed to be running? I saw it should be moving quarter turns? Mine is really whizzing round. Any info much appreciated. Cheers Lee

[LD]

Re: Where’s the pump?

The filter on my Ariston CDE 6x won’t open so assume something is wedged in it. From the responses in this thread I need to remove the pump but where is it? The manual says nothing at all and as it’s a fitted kitchen appliance it’s difficult to see anywhere but the front. Is it underneath the filter? How do I take it out to clean it?

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